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Flopping a Set
« on: January 07, 2008, 20:09:16 PM »
First hand of a freeroll

Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.

MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with  jd ks

The pot is 60
The flop is  8d jh js

SB checks

What is your next course of action?
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 20:18:23 PM »
gotta get some value in the pot.... bet 40.  Also, strong bet might actually disguise the strength of your hand (if that makes sense).

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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 20:22:48 PM »
Freeroll you say?  Shove, and watch them call.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 20:23:00 PM »
Firstly its a freeroll, how come only 3 people are in the pot?

Id bet about half the pot and hope either both call or raise, by betting im hoping to disguise the strength of my hand.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 13:54:46 PM »

First hand of a freeroll

Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.

MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with  jd ks

The pot is 60
The flop is  8d jh js

SB checks

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I would have thought 30 or 40.
Less would be just too little and more might actually scare them off.
I would also be tempted to check and hope somebody tried to steal it, or paired an ace and tried to take the pot.

But...
The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded

Turn:
8d jh js   th

Pot: 100

With the SB folding you"re first to act, now what do you do?
Could you put the MP on a range of hands, or could they be betting with anything because you bet so little?
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 14:07:54 PM »
Im shoving now in a freeroll, u might probably get called as well with a open ended straight i recon..

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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 14:48:38 PM »
He has  qh 9h.  The  kh arrives on the river, gives you the full house and him the straight flush.

Next.

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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 15:03:41 PM »
Its a freeroll, if you check and he shoves are you going to fold?

I shove and sign up for the next one.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 15:41:10 PM »
Freeroll for a GUKPT seat - does that make a difference with how keen anyone is to shove?
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 15:43:06 PM »

Freeroll for a GUKPT seat - does that make a difference with how keen anyone is to shove?


Nope.  Shove.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 15:52:09 PM »

Freeroll you say?  Shove, and watch them call.


In fact watch a few of them call .... including the guy with  jc 8h   :"(
How can you call that.... you should have bet more...... I was all-in...... well you should have had more to bet.

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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 16:23:16 PM »
Let"s go back to the beginning.
MP limps, so what range do you put him on small PP, suited connectors, two picture cards, its a freeroll so really any two cards are possible. Its a GUKPT freeroll you say so is the play a lot different in this to a usual freeroll (not played one).

There are 3 hands beating you at the mo. J8, J10 & Q9 if you over bet the pot say 200 and he shoves I think you can put it down, I could but I"m a rock. If you bet the pot or less and he"s on a draw I think he will call, if he has the nuts he will call, leaving you with the same problem on the river, but with a bigger pot. I think the over pot bet gives you the info needed.
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 17:16:46 PM »


First hand of a freeroll

Everybody has 1500 chips, blinds 10,20, and you know nothing about anyone.

MP limps, SB completes and in the big blind you check with  jd ks

The pot is 60
The flop is  8d jh js

SB checks

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...
The bet was actually 20.
MP called
SB folded

Turn:
8d jh js   th

Pot: 100
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The bet was 20 again - MP calls.

River:
8d jh js   th  9c

Pot: 140

BB: bets 100
MP:raises to 220

Call, Raise or Fold?
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 18:55:08 PM »
fold now

one of the fish has caugt a str8 or maybe a fh

even if you call the BB may reraise and where would you be then?
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Re: Flopping a Set
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 20:23:39 PM »
Jon, is this limit?  What"s with the bet amounts?
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