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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2011, 12:17:35 PM »
How about disbanding the Team"s with less than 10 regular players (or any chosen number) like the team that I play for which is London who regularly only have 3 players, myself, wise owl, and LGPN. Once these teams are disbanded the players are then free to join a new team of their choice under option 1. The members of the disbanded clubs could have no complaints, as they have not supported their chosen clubs when they had the chance. I reckon this would reduce the amount of clubs by 35-50% and a league of 15 to 20 teams could be formed from those remaining, all of which would have a new influx of players from the disbanded clubs.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2011, 12:19:40 PM »

One further variable which may or may not make a difference. 

One of the events being proposed for late in Season 6 is an APAT National League Live, which could potentially bring together the top 8 players in all of the teams, for an end of season community spectacular to be run along the lines of the UK Team Championship (which would be run earlier in the season).


This is a good idea but there are quite a few players that only play APAT online, so you might be excluding some from the series because they wouldn"t or couldn"t play the final.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #77 on: December 23, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »


Ok guys, the posting regarding what"s happened in the past is counter productive to the objective of this thread so let"s just forget the past and concentrate on moving forward.

Thanks.


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I was talking about the sniping between Liverpool and West Midlands.  We"ve got that message now, no need to continue it on.  Consider it lodged and non-interest bearing.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #78 on: December 23, 2011, 12:27:28 PM »
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #79 on: December 23, 2011, 12:41:19 PM »

How about disbanding the Team"s with less than 10 regular players (or any chosen number) like the team that I play for which is London who regularly only have 3 players, myself, wise owl, and LGPN. Once these teams are disbanded the players are then free to join a new team of their choice under option 1. The members of the disbanded clubs could have no complaints, as they have not supported their chosen clubs when they had the chance. I reckon this would reduce the amount of clubs by 35-50% and a league of 15 to 20 teams could be formed from those remaining, all of which would have a new influx of players from the disbanded clubs.


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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2011, 13:01:49 PM »



Ok guys, the posting regarding what"s happened in the past is counter productive to the objective of this thread so let"s just forget the past and concentrate on moving forward.

Thanks.


What has happened in the past should be an important driver to shape the future. How do we learn from our mistakes otherwise?


I was talking about the sniping between Liverpool and West Midlands.  We"ve got that message now, no need to continue it on.  Consider it lodged and non-interest bearing.


My original post wasn"t meant as a snipe against Liverpool or any other team. I was simply stating my opinion with regards to the direction of the league, as was asked for. If anyone read it as being a snipe against them (or their team) then I apologise, that was certainly not intended.

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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #81 on: December 23, 2011, 13:10:58 PM »

I would also like to suggest a mechanism where all $$$ won in any week is divided amongst the members of the team that play (if small teams) or perhaps score points that week.


Having twice been the only member to cash in the forum event on a team that had agreed to split all winnings, I can tell you that it isn"t much fun when every £100 extra you ladder means another £6.25 for you.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #82 on: December 23, 2011, 13:14:09 PM »

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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #83 on: December 23, 2011, 13:15:45 PM »
Option 2 for me,this league thing needs a whole new spin on it.

Good point by Andy! Lets divy up team winnings amongst all team players that play that week.For anything team related the need to eradicate individual gain surely is the way forward.Its a promoted as a team league so lets play by that,even with all the hideous"s that team play entails.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #84 on: December 23, 2011, 13:45:28 PM »

Option 2 for me,this league thing needs a whole new spin on it.

Good point by Andy! Lets divy up team winnings amongst all team players that play that week.For anything team related the need to eradicate individual gain surely is the way forward.Its a promoted as a team league so lets play by that,even with all the hideous"s that team play entails.


I kind of agree.... however once a team has no chance of winning, there is no incentive for people to play, and that can spoil the dynamic for the teams still in the running.... the individual element ensures that [most] people will continue to play.

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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #85 on: December 23, 2011, 14:55:36 PM »


Option 2 for me,this league thing needs a whole new spin on it.

Good point by Andy! Lets divy up team winnings amongst all team players that play that week.For anything team related the need to eradicate individual gain surely is the way forward.Its a promoted as a team league so lets play by that,even with all the hideous"s that team play entails.


I kind of agree.... however once a team has no chance of winning, there is no incentive for people to play, and that can spoil the dynamic for the teams still in the running.... the individual element ensures that [most] people will continue to play.


True Steve, unless there"s an end of season final where most teams are guaranteed (by design) to have some sort of chance. I vaguely recall that"s how we did it a few seasons ago. Top few teams played a final. If we do go down that route though I would rather the final should be seeded in some way, rather than top x teams playoff on equal stacks.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #86 on: December 23, 2011, 15:19:05 PM »


I would also like to suggest a mechanism where all $$$ won in any week is divided amongst the members of the team that play (if small teams) or perhaps score points that week.


Having twice been the only member to cash in the forum event on a team that had agreed to split all winnings, I can tell you that it isn"t much fun when every £100 extra you ladder means another £6.25 for you.


Good point.

Would it have worked better if it were only shared out amongst point scorers? Or perhaps the top 10 from your team?

Whatever, this is a team game and so the individual prize for winning should not have as great an effect on the dynamic of the weekly game as it has done at times in the past.

You could go as far as scrapping weekly payouts altogether and use the cash to pay each team a share based on their finishing position in the league. In the football Premier League all teams get a "prize" even Birmingham the team that finishes bottom. Or use it to fund the prizepool for a final etc.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #87 on: December 23, 2011, 15:40:11 PM »

In the football Premier League all teams get a "prize" even Birmingham the team that finishes bottom.


Yes - at last!

This thread has gone on for far too long without the inevitable football analogy. Thanks for bringing things back to normal Andy.
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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
« Reply #88 on: December 23, 2011, 16:12:47 PM »
Andy O I will speak to you at next BCPC or next time I see ya and explain why your comments are way off .

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Re: National Online League - Season 6 Formats
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