National Online League - Season 6 Formats

[Fatcatstu]

Firstly thanks for the comment Stu , felt a bit unrecognised after not making the shortlist for APAT player of the year  (even though near the top of total rankings,finishing 2nd in div 1 and leading England to their best ever finish). But thats another story lol )

any time mate, felt the need to recognise genius :p

[AMRN]

Waz it sounds to me with option 2 you would have a Luton club, but possibly only a Luton captain with the rest of the team being made up from all over the country?

No change then?  (although you forgot to mention rest of Europe too)

[AMRN]

Just please please please do not give west midlands any more players they got their boost last year !!

No kidding!!  We almost managed to increase our numbers to equal Liverpool and Luton, but not quite.

[AceOnTheRiver]

Much prefer option 1 to option 2.

I see the need for an overhaul, but option 2 is basically killing off the old league and starting afresh and (and I know I say this with Luton tinted glasses and it"s different for smaller teams with different challenges etc) some clubs have really developed a group camaradarie (sp?), for example there"s been talk of a quarterly Luton home game, this would not have happened without the league.

At least with Option 1 the whole team may remain together as part of a larger team.

Good Luck with whatever"s decided, I will play when I can regardless.

Oh And...

Scotland FTW!  

You won"t get past the first round  

[TightEnd]

Option 1

For purposes of illustration only

Scotland
Ireland
NW England (Liv, Manc, Carlisle)
NE England (Leeds and up)
West Mids (up to the potteries, down to Worcestershire, down to oxford etc)
East Mids (Leics up to Sheffield)
East (Luton, East Anglia)
West (Bristol, Wales and Westwards...)
London and South East (N Lon, S Lon, Kent)
South (Solent and across the South coast going West)

creating 10 teams on a level playing field for numbers
deeper scoring system to make more teams score points every week
some team identity retained
you play with your mates, still
new players are recruited to join their region


Option 2

possibility 1) Would be a "slotting" process rather than a draft.

ie we rank every player over their online league results going back two years

We publish that list

We form ten teams,

Team 1 gets players ranked 1, 20, 31, 40, 51 etc

Team 2 gets players ranked 2,21,32,41,52

and so on

- Whilst there are no guarantees, these teams should be very even


possibility 2) A draft. Captains chosen and they pick players from a list, according to who they want most.

- This allows them to retain some regional identity, if they wish, via picking
- Logistics of organisation might be tough
- New players allocated to teams in turn/at random once the league starts


that"s some meat on the bones for people to discuss

[Des]

Option 1

For purposes of illustration only

Scotland
Ireland
NW England (Liv, Manc, Carlisle)
NE England (Leeds and up)
West Mids (up to the potteries, down to Worcestershire, down to oxford etc)
East Mids (Leics up to Sheffield)
East (Luton, East Anglia)
West (Bristol, Wales and Westwards...)
London and South East (N Lon, S Lon, Kent)
South (Solent and across the South coast going West)

creating 10 teams on a level playing field for numbers
deeper scoring system to make more teams score points every week
some team identity retained
you play with your mates, still
new players are recruited to join their region


Option 2

possibility 1) Would be a "slotting" process rather than a draft.

ie we rank every player over their online league results going back two years

We publish that list

We form ten teams,

Team 1 gets players ranked 1, 20, 31, 40, 51 etc

Team 2 gets players ranked 2,21,32,41,52

and so on

- Whilst there are no guarantees, these teams should be very even


possibility 2) A draft. Captains chosen and they pick players from a list, according to who they want most.

- This allows them to retain some regional identity, if they wish, via picking
- Logistics of organisation might be tough
- New players allocated to teams in turn/at random once the league starts


that"s some meat on the bones for people to discuss

Just for a bit of clarification.  The 2nd option would see us creating 20 teams, not 10.  In reality enabling 20 captains to pick from the list of 300 odd players is unlikely to happen, so assume option 2 would be delivered as a form of seeded draw, but it would be done in the fairest possible way.  So for example, if Team A gets the first player in round 1 of the draw, they would get the last player in round 2, and so on.

[TightEnd]

yes thanks, that makes sense

Here I am currently, with everything we are planning!

[1TRW1]

Just please please please do not give west midlands any more players they got their boost last year !!

No kidding!!  We almost managed to increase our numbers to equal Liverpool and Luton, but not quite.

Correctamundo!

[1TRW1]

Option 2 for me I reckon.

[1TRW1]

Option 2 for me I reckon.

Sorry, I meant option 1. (I"m an idiot.)

[MintTrav]

Option 1
South (Solent and across the South coast going West)

Great - so we would amalgamate with Plymouth"s two active players. I assumed the proposal would include us combining with Kent and/or London. You will be aware that APAT hasn"t taken off in the South, possibly due to every tournament being a long way away until now. [Thanks for Brighton btw - lots of Solent players going.] Giving us a region which seems comparable in size to others, but is basically a desert, is not equitable. Would Sussex players at least have to play for their own region instead of going with Kent and their lovely captain? TBH, I feel that the regional format is a bit tired now.

Love Option 2, whether drafts or seeded. Should make for a much more competitive league, rather than one where the players of one team are competing to see which of them gets the free seats this time.

[TightEnd]

Great - so we would amalgamate with Plymouth"s two active players. I assumed the proposal would include us combining with Kent and/or London.

It might do, I was merely putting an idea out there.

The aim under either option is to make for much more competitive leagues, with every team in the hunt for longer and thus added value seats are not a foregone conclusion. Should lead to higher league numbers overall, for longer

If Combining Solent in a different manner than I suggested under option 1 helps acheives that, then good

If the most common view is that people are happy to drop local teams, regional teams and play in teams formed another way, such as drafting or slotting then fine too

[tumblet]

Option 1 for me, with Wales maybe either being a team of its own, or split into North West and South West if not in a team of its own.

[scouse3465]

Just please please please do not give west midlands any more players they got their boost last year !!

No kidding!!  We almost managed to increase our numbers to equal Liverpool and Luton, but not quite.

We got numbers cos we went out and recruited you just carried on with walsall ,birmingham with odd player from natural discovery. And also you got well established players in APAT all capable of scoring poins and also when required to play every week . We get newbies to APAT and a lot new to poker .If you do not receive more players maybe you will have to get off your arse and recruit people! I can you see you biting now cos there a chance it will be on a level playing field at the start !

[scouse3465]

I like the sounds of all 3 options to be honest . All have pros and cons !

The best one in theory is the regional one but that still has a chance to have super teams ??

The other 2 would stop this but not have same identity .

Tough one really wouldnt know which i would prefer to be honest !

Tough job to decide.

Did think scoring system worked well from last year though would like to see that kept . I think that was just about spot on and would work even better with increased numbers , still exactly same points scoring players etc !