APAT European Amateur Championship - Live Update

[amcgrath1uk]

Many thanks for everyone who made it such an enjoyable weekend!

Highlight for me personally was owning Grant in the Sunday night freezeout

Looking forward to playing much more often in S6!

[George2Loose]

Congratulations to Brian Martin who won the Cash Tour event.  

Never in doubt IMO. WP Brian.

FFS

[cundallini]

Really good weekend, nice casino staff and all the players were a good laugh as usual.

Only peeve was on the final table when we were railing our friend.

He shoves his last 10-15bb and gets called by someone who has him easily covered.

KQ < AJ

We all called for the kings and queens etc only to be told by the eventual winner not to call for cards as it"s rude and not fair on the other player.

Where do you guys stand? Had the other player had a rail would they have done the same?

Is it not good for the game to cheer from the rail like in wsop?

[Paulie_D]

Not that I haven"t done it but it is rude.

Railers should be seen but not heard.

Just because it"s done at the WSOP doesn"t make it right, proper or "good for the game".....it"s not a bloody football match.

[cundallini]

It"s a strange one. There was about 3 people railing the heads up match. Perhaps more people would take up playing and friends of players would want to come watch if the rail was exciting.

[Swinebag]

It"s a strange one. There was about 3 people railing the heads up match. Perhaps more people would take up playing and friends of players would want to come watch if the rail was exciting.

fair point - I don"t like it when players call for cards then woop when they suck out, but i suppose it makes for a fun occasion if there is a bit of banter on the rail.

I lost an allin in edinburgh with the villains rail screaming for an ace which came. I was more upset about the ace and the rail reaction didn"t bother me. The villain to be fair just raked in the pot and said nothing so I was cool with it.

I think sponsors like this sort of thing for the reason quoted by cundallini, so given the added value that is generally on offer from sponsors, then a rowdy rail is a neccessary "evil" (not that I think its evil)

[Santino67]

Many thanks for everyone who made it such an enjoyable weekend!

Highlight for me personally was owning Grant in the Sunday night freezeout

Looking forward to playing much more often in S6!

Had a great weekend as well Asa but don"t think I"ve ever felt as knackered as I am now, didn"t leave the casino till after 3am last night   Well done to Marie and Brian and everyone who cashed over the piece. Thanks to all the regulars and new faces I met for making the journey worthwhile as ever and to Richard and Des as ever for the immense job they do  

[cundallini]

Because it"s a competitive game and sometimes you might have a horse in the tournament I think it should be allowed only when the cards are on their backs. All the decisions have been made so why not cheer for the cards.

[AceOnTheRiver]

He shoves his last 10-15bb and gets called by someone who has him easily covered.

This is the key for me. IMHO when your friend is at risk for his tournament life after such a deep run I personally think it is acceptable, fun and exciting to call for cards. It"s a different matter when the other player is at risk.

Over celebrating suck-outs is also a different matter and imho is wrong (an instinctive fist pump as a reaction is ok as it"s exactly that... instinct)

I had left by the time the FT started so didn"t see how this specific stuation took place, but those are my views based on what"s posted.

One thing that really tilts me (and I am not saying it applies here; the post just reminded me of it) is when a player not in the hand calls for cards which would eliminate the player at risk in order to ladder. This to me is disgusting and disrespectful and it happened at the weekend (not in the main event)

[cundallini]

Agree with all above.

If it was the other Saturday night tournament final table then it was disgusting and stupid because he was shouting for cards which didn"t even need to hit haha. TT > KJ or something and this guy still in is callin for a ten.

Awful nit retard

[Cyntaf]

Congratulaions to Tony, Jon and especially to Marie. Sounds like it was a fun weekend

Also big congrats to that eastern european gangster.............?? Brian?

[bigalhx3]

well done moonfish i new you would TID

[malice73]

Really good weekend, nice casino staff and all the players were a good laugh as usual.

Only peeve was on the final table when we were railing our friend.

He shoves his last 10-15bb and gets called by someone who has him easily covered.

KQ < AJ

We all called for the kings and queens etc only to be told by the eventual winner not to call for cards as it"s rude and not fair on the other player.

Where do you guys stand? Had the other player had a rail would they have done the same?

Is it not good for the game to cheer from the rail like in wsop?

I was there for this, it was good to hear the cheer for your guy when he sat down for the last 4.
I think Marie did ask where was the cheer for her and the other 2, as joke!

I do feel it is "just is not British" to shout from the rail. You have to ask yourself would you like it?

[pinkie17]

Hello all. Marie here. Many thanks to everyone for their congratulations and for a great weekend - I can"t believe what a friendly tournament it was & thank the casino, the dealers and the APAT "people" for making it such a good event.

@ Cundallini - I"m sorry that I was your "peeve". I think the support you gave your friend was fantastic and from a personal perspective I have no issue with calls like "good luck" & cheering if he won the hand. And if he had called for the cards, that"s fair enough because it"s his tournament life on the line and no-one likes to be in that position. It"s just that, in the venues where I have played most of my poker, I"ve always been taught that"s it"s not good etiquette to call for cards for someone else, especially to effectively bad beat someone. But if the tournament directors had ok"d it, I would of course have sucked it up. It wasn"t personal...

The highlight for me, other than winning, was managing to get to (I think it was) 5th place without actually having been in an all-in showdown with my tournament life on the line. Don"t get me wrong, there had been a few hands where it it had gone the other way I"d have been left with next to nothing & other times when I went all-in with no calls from bigger stacks but I can"t remember another tournament with so few all-ins. I"d like to say it was good play but in reality it"s just the cards you"re given plus a number of other factors which I imagine are unlikely to be repeated...

thanks again to everyone who made it such a great tournament, best wishes, Marie

[Daz Mac]

Well done Marie, pleasure being on your table at the start.