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Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« on: January 27, 2012, 13:21:08 PM »
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Blinds are 200/400 (50)

Hero has 7.9K - well below average stack.

Villain has approx 30K and is the table captain.

Hero has a tight image. Villain has been very aggro - involved in more then 50% of pots. Seems to be a fairly good LAG but has made some spazzy plays and called off super light on a number of occasions knowing he is likely behind. Seen to 3bet a fair bit and he is a reg at the casino.

Folded round to hero on the button who has  3c 3d. Villain is in the big blind.

Hero makes it 900, villain 3 bets to 2.3K. We?

I had a plan before the hand but not sure it was the right one. Will give my thoughts after a few opinions.

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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 15:12:53 PM »
If I am playing the hand I am jamming
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 15:21:48 PM »

If I am playing the hand I am jamming


Re-read OP and deleted my original response.

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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 15:29:55 PM »
When I say jam I mean I am open shoving pre. As played I probably fold but would never play it this way in the first place.
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 15:44:14 PM »
Agree with Dean - prefer jamming pre, but as played I"m probably still jamming here with perceived FE and dead money.
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 15:45:12 PM »
Im folding.  Villain priced in with his entire range, and 3"s wnt have good equity vs any 3b range.  Agree tht jamming button is our best option here...
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 15:48:15 PM »
Well we don"t know villain but I am presuming he is not 3bet/folding vs a 19bb stack. Suppose this is a fairly big assumption in the live poker arena lol
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 15:55:01 PM »
There"s usually FE - however small. Even if you ignore it you"re probably around 40-46% vs his range depending on how crazy his is. Any sign that he"s a bit deranged I"m just going to bang it in.

I like the line if he"s a non-thinking LAG and could 3-bet/fold in this spot - and is never flatting. A lot to hope for.
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 09:15:55 AM »
I"m open jamming most comps. I"m probs raise/folding in an APAT event though
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 09:53:39 AM »
Hmm here I,m inclined to think that the three betting loon will probably never pass so ......
My 33 is only in front of 22 and flipping against any other random hand.and of course he could have 44 or better so folding here would still leave 7 k  a playable stack so I fold and wait for a better spot .. ;)

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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 15:03:28 PM »

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Seen to 3bet a fair bit



You"re jamming 7k to win a pot of approx 3.8k and leaving villain odds of 2/1 to call. I"m keen to know if he"s 3bet folded previous to this hand before I put my tourney on the line. I"ll jam if i"m pretty sure he"ll fold....but def folding if I think my best case scenario is as a very weak fave.
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 15:41:06 PM »
Button v Blind into an aggro, wide 3 betting opponent with ~20 bigs. Raise folding is really bad imho. You have two viable choices, fold, which is nitty but preferable to raise folding or open jamming which will be profitable even when the blinds call as wide as 55+,A2s+,KJs+,QJs,A8o+,KQo.

Our open jam gets through ~70% and we increase our stack by 13% when we take down the pot uncontested, the aggro villain two to our left has us somewhat handcuffed so we likely have limited opportunities to chip up. If your table was due to break soon you might make a case for the nittier option but even then open jam seems the best option.
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 16:51:08 PM »
stick it right in his bloody eye!
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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2012, 19:38:23 PM »
Not sure I like open jamming ~20xBB.  Hate raise/folding from this stack.   If we know BB will 3-bet almost all of the time here, then folding may be best. Would prefer to save my stack for a 3-bet shove ~20x with SC type hands than open jam here.

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Re: Pocket 3's to a 3bet
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2012, 06:59:11 AM »
I"m never putting a single chip in pre with 33 in this spot. As said before waiting for a stronger hand or spot to 3bet shove similar is better. As played tho it"s a close 1 and I would fold because I"m 99% sure he is calling for a flip.
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