Match Structure

[WYoung83]

^ so basically week 2 then? Because i thought the blind structures exactly the same.

[BOINGBLITZ]

Obviously 500+ runners in Week One were all unhappy!

[technolog]

^ so basically week 2 then? Because i thought the blind structures exactly the same.

No, we had 5k chips in week 1 and, though I wasn"t in long enough to notice, I"m told some levels went missing too.

[TightEnd]

Answering points above

Week 3 is exactly the same as Week 2, and it is anticipated that will continue

No blind levels were missing Week 2 versus Week 1

Brian, for every player happy with Week 1, there was one unhappy at how long it went on. The European team also probably folds if we continued with the Week 1 structure, which would have been most undesirable not just for the legaue but for APAT in general, looking ahead.

It"s impossible to please everyone on this

[AMRN]

It"s impossible to please everyone on this

^^This!!

As it stands, it is suitable all round imo. Deep and slow enough to not be a turbo, but not so deep and slow that it lasts til ridiculous-o-clock.

For late night deep stack action, get onto William Hill tonight at 8pm ffs!!

[WYoung83]

Yeh fair enough, can never please everyone. debate has been fun though.

[galo5767]

Des,

What the hope for Week 1?

Would be good to get some feedback from Stars too, on what they think about the numbers

I believed we would get a record turnout Waz, but not 547 runners.

Perhaps not for PokerStars, but for every other major online operator in the UK, that would be an extremely good result.  For a non operator to be able to produce those numbers, is exceptional.

If its an extremely good result, why on earth would you want to change it

[galo5767]

Answering points above

Week 3 is exactly the same as Week 2, and it is anticipated that will continue

No blind levels were missing Week 2 versus Week 1

Brian, for every player happy with Week 1, there was one unhappy at how long it went on. The European team also probably folds if we continued with the Week 1 structure, which would have been most undesirable not just for the legaue but for APAT in general, looking ahead.

It"s impossible to please everyone on this

I"m not entirely sure what APAT actually is, is it about the Forum or is it about the guys who play the tournaments? (genuine question). If its the latter, then I find the following statement hard to believe - 547 runners and "for everyone that was happy there was one unhappy", sorry, I do not question your integrity at all but this is a rash statement with no facts to back it up. It seems to me that APAT does indeed like to listen to its members, depending on what member you are. Having said that, if APAT is indeed about the guys who post on this forum then please
ignore this post.

[BOINGBLITZ]

Didnt play last night but how many runners were there?

Was it more than 547 or less?

....and it if it was a lot less, how delighted are the sponsors??

Also, if there really were as many happy as there were unhappy with the opening structure, why was it changed at all then???

[AJDUK]

Didnt play last night but how many runners were there?

Was it more than 547 or less?

....and it if it was a lot less, how delighted are the sponsors??

Also, if there really were as many happy as there were unhappy with the opening structure, why was it changed at all then???

Because the captains, of which you are one, wanted it. Des has responded to everyone that has asked that APAT were happy to leave it as was but it was pressure from the captains that brought about the change.
Whether the captains wanted such a drastic change seems less clear cut, but you should at least be able to read the relevant thread on your private board to find out!

It appears that only pressure from the captains will lead to any (further) change.

[AMRN]

Didnt play last night but how many runners were there?

Was it more than 547 or less?

....and it if it was a lot less, how delighted are the sponsors??

Also, if there really were as many happy as there were unhappy with the opening structure, why was it changed at all then???

ummmm did nobody notice that in week 1 with the 5k/15 structure there were 547 runners..... and in week 2 that had reduced to around 420(can"t remember actual number). That"s a huge drop off after one week, and perhaps an indication of what many people thought about the 3.30am finish? Can"t blame the new structure for that drop off as the new structure hadn"t been played yet.

[AMRN]

Des,

What the hope for Week 1?

Would be good to get some feedback from Stars too, on what they think about the numbers

I believed we would get a record turnout Waz, but not 547 runners.

Perhaps not for PokerStars, but for every other major online operator in the UK, that would be an extremely good result.  For a non operator to be able to produce those numbers, is exceptional.

If its an extremely good result, why on earth would you want to change it

The number dropped off significantly (20%+) after the first week, before the 4k structure had been played..... that"s over 100 people that didn"t come back after week one. Perhaps a sign of people not liking the 3.30am finish?

[Chipaccrual]

	Runners	Runtime	Finish Time
Week 1	547	8hrs 8mins	3:08
Week 2	454	5hrs 46mins	12:46
Week 3	331	5hrs 21mins	12:21

[Chipaccrual]

Last Seasons Online National League Runners

Week 1 - 287
Week 2 - 230
Week 3 - 204

[AMRN]

Thanks Leigh. So more dropped after wk2 than after wk1.    Might that have happened anyway, regardless of structure, or might it be an indication of feeling?

I"m sure there"s a structure out there that will suit most desires - Dave Howard made some good observations in the Match 3 thread last night, looking at the Stars 500 cap structure with 3k/10, but a shallower climb.