APAT online

[nosey-p]

Season two as so far been a big improvement on season one, apart from the online games. Why have the numbers fallen? Is it because of it being on ipoker? Is it the cost or maybe the structure? What about it being on a Thursday as well as Saturday. Is there too many games? Why does there seem to be less interest in the online game. Is there too much emphasis on the live game? I know that APAT is all about getting us all out of our armchairs and into the casinos/card rooms but is the online game being over looked? If it was not for the internet, the majority of us would not be playing at all. So here is my early suggestions for season three.

1.   One game a month/4 weeks
2.   To be on a Saturday
3.   To have a structure off 5000 chips and a 15 minute clock
4.   Buy in of $50
5.   To run $5 STT 24/7. To run $5 MTT on all other Saturday's (to qualify)  
6.   To have added money to the tournament (from the sponsor)
7.   To have the top 20 places get points 1st 25, 2nd 22, 3rd 19, then 17 down to 1 ( to be the same as the live tournament)
8.   To have a trophy for first (not on the same scale as the Nationals)

Am I talking rubbish?
Any thoughts  
         

[kinboshi]

You always talk rubbish, but there are some valid points in that post.

[biffa85]

I like your idea"s, my suggestions....

1-4 Have one $50 buyin game per 4 weeks on a Saturday with chip stack and blinds as you suggest. 

5. Why not have the sats on a week night
6. Obviously keen to have value added by sponsor
7. Nationals should earn more points than regionals and online events, because of the added prestige, also a $50 online is not comparable to a £75 live event. - Whether points system need to be looked at I feel should have a thread all of it"s own.
8. Not sure why we need a trophy, as top three already get a medals.

In addition I would also suggest a smaller online tourney also every 4 weeks say $25, for those with smaller bankrolls or those that want to play twice a month.

Look forward to other peoples views/suggestions

Benet

[HaworthBantam]

.......Why does there seem to be less interest in the online game. Is there too much emphasis on the live game?........

Strange that you should think that way, Wayne. Personally, I think there"s a lot of bias towards the online game, and not enough to the live game - although that has improved for season two.

I gave up playing online a number of years ago because it just wasn"t real to me. Having played 3 of the season 2 online events my views remain the same. Nothing against BlueSquare or the software, just that online poker is not for me.

If the numbers playing the online events have dropped off, maybe it"s because they"ve seen the error of their ways and are now playing more live ?

APAT did change the tourney dates, times and structures at the request of the membership prior to and, in some minor cases, during season two. I would suggest that you give it until the end of the season. I"m sure that if the membership and APAT think that changes are necessary for season three, then they"ll be discussed.

Am I talking rubbish?

Ahem........  

[kinboshi]

I gave up playing online a number of years ago because it just wasn"t real to me.

Yes, but when did you give up playing live as well?

[HaworthBantam]

I gave up playing online a number of years ago because it just wasn"t real to me.

Yes, but when did you give up playing live as well?

The only time I play well live, is when Wayne is on my table  

For the most part, I just leave the playing to Caz  

[nosey-p]

The reason why I have brought these suggestions up now is that I read (somewere on here) that APAT have already started discussing season three  

[nosey-p]

Ian how did you do in Manchester?

[biffa85]

I"m not taking anything away from season 2, or the great effort put in by a lot of different people, but surely suggestions from the membership should be encouraged, also we are trying to begin debate regarding series 3....we"re not trying to get changes made to season 2.

I agree with you that with 50 online tourneys and only 5 regionals plus 7 national/international ranking events, that there is a bias towards online events.

I would love to see far MORE regionals in MORE casinos, and I"m sure that this will happen with time.  Ideally one every month would suit me!

[HaworthBantam]

The reason why I have brought these suggestions up now is that I read (somewere on here) that APAT have already started discussing season three  

I remember that as well, Wayne, not sure where however. I think it might have been in relation to live events though. I"m sure I"ll be corrected if I"m wrong.


Don"t get me wrong Wayne, you do right to bring concerns up and generate discussion, I"m not criticising your posting or views.  

Ian how did you do in Manchester?

Ohhh, below the belt sir, below the belt.

In my defence, I was on medication that knocked me out for 12+ hours a day at the time. But, it was my choice to play and, quite frankly, I was rubbish !!  

[nosey-p]

I didn't think you was criticising me

[nosey-p]

As for a bias to online, I am suggesting that they are less games but with more at stake hence the point's structure

[HaworthBantam]

If the points structure was brought into line with the National points structure, then I would suggest that the number of online events that could count to your points total should be capped, as with the live.

[nosey-p]

Agreed

[biffa85]

definately agree!