The River (or...They always get there)

[pokerpops]

I can confirm, yes Pokerstars is rigged.

5 Handed in a SCOOP satellite.  Top 2 get $215 seats, 3rd gets $70



From comfortable seat position to shortstack in two hands, runner runner flushed both times.

And out shortly after that  



Oh, and both players in the above hands won the seats.   Surprised ?    

[poker_jason]

On line poker definately rigged - saw the best hand hold up serveral times in last nights scoop.

Even my mighty 77 couldn"t crack the QQ & KK I had inadvertently shoved into from UTG.....

Might have helped if I hadn"t fallen asleep twice. At least I had the common sense to use the snooze feature on my phone.  

Also if you win 3* the buy-in does this count as a min cash? I mean I"m new to all this and really - rigged RNG on Pokerstars.

Next up bots, exposed holecards on super accounts, multi accounting and collusion (although these all did/do actually happen).

Moving on......

[Santino67]

Easy to win when scrappy doo and the joker are wild

Online poker rigged?

Of course it is, proof here

http://www.billrini.com/2004/11/30/proof-that-online-poker-is-rigged/

LOL fantastic  

+1 u is a funny guy Phil.

BTW Grant, a little suggestion for you my friend.

Take a few weeks off the poker, seems you may have other things on your mind. When you come back, all of those hands will be a thing of a very distant past. GL matey

Good advice to take a break Paul, but I"m happy to keep going in the belief that the variance will work out. Like I said before I"m not suggesting anythings "rigged", nor am i suggesting that I"ve not at any time made bad plays. It"s just very painful joining a site then finding that approximately 80% of the hands I"m getting in with well ahead are leading to seriously awful outdraws. So yeah I"ll put it down to variance kicking me in the knackers for the most part and assume that it"ll iron itself out over the piece.

See you all on the virtual again at the weekend and at Cardiff on 26th  

[PantsMan]

Amazed that people honestly still believe this kind of thing. I"ve played on Stars for about the last 4 years now and had every single sick suckout imaginable. I"ve also dealt out some horrible beats to other players. It"s just the nature of the game. I hear rants in the chat box almost daily from players insisting it"s rigged but then I hear precisely the same playing on Sky (in fact more so). But the fact is I win money on both sites. And when you look up the players moaning about it being rigged on OPR or Sharkscope, surprise surprise, they"re generally losing players.

Bad beats happen. Simple as. You just have to learn to deal with them. I find the best way is to concentrate on your good beats rather than the bad and look at whether you would play the hand any different if you played it again.
You want (or should want) players making big mistakes and calling your shoves where you"re holding the best hand. If they suck out then so be it but if you played it right and you keep doing so then the results will come.

And this is coming from someone who has broken two mice and a monitor whilst playing so trust me I do know where you"re coming from, i"ve just learned to be a lot less Hellmuth over the years!  ))

[Chipaccrual]

Amazed that people honestly still believe this kind of thing. I"ve played on Stars for about the last 4 years now and had every single sick suckout imaginable. I"ve also dealt out some horrible beats to other players. It"s just the nature of the game. I hear rants in the chat box almost daily from players insisting it"s rigged but then I hear precisely the same playing on Sky (in fact more so). But the fact is I win money on both sites. And when you look up the players moaning about it being rigged on OPR or Sharkscope, surprise surprise, they"re generally losing players.

Bad beats happen. Simple as. You just have to learn to deal with them. I find the best way is to concentrate on your good beats rather than the bad and look at whether you would play the hand any different if you played it again.
You want (or should want) players making big mistakes and calling your shoves where you"re holding the best hand. If they suck out then so be it but if you played it right and you keep doing so then the results will come.

And this is coming from someone who has broken two mice and a monitor whilst playing so trust me I do know where you"re coming from, i"ve just learned to be a lot less Hellmuth over the years!  ))

Did you not read my post properly ?

It clearly is rigged, I have posted the evidence to prove it.  

And I really don"t think much of your blatant "I am a winning player" brag post  

[PantsMan]

Did you not read my post properly ?

It clearly is rigged, I have posted the evidence to prove it.  

And I really don"t think much of your blatant "I am a winning player" brag post  

Sorry Leigh. Having read your post I can now see it blatantly is rigged. In the first hand when the river is first dealt there are only 4 cards and you have the winning hand and yet when it goes to showdown another card has appeared that gives him the flush. Outrageous cheating!

My humble apologies. I"ve written an angry letter to Daniel Negreanu.

I reckon he"s my bestest mate now as I keep getting e-mails with personal recommendations about what SCOOP tournaments he recommends that are signed by him. Nice of him to take the time out of his busy schedule to look at what I play and make suggestions based on it.

I"ll let you know what he says.

[Scousebill]

I actually won a hand today were the River went in my favour.. I was ahead at the start and went behind then hit the River to stay a winner...  

[PantsMan]

I actually won a hand today were the River went in my favour.. I was ahead at the start and went behind then hit the River to stay a winner...  

FIX!  

[AMRN]

I actually won a hand today were the River went in my favour.. I was ahead at the start and went behind then hit the River to stay a winner...  

Blatantly rigged imo!!

[Santino67]

Watched the PCA highlights and saw Katchalot lose with AA v QQ AIPF. Don"t feel so bad now that i know even the big money live tourneys are fixed  

[PantsMan]

You think it"s bad when it happens in a small stakes tourney online, how"s about the World Series Final Table?!

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvpEv-gbbDE[/youtube]

[fandango]

Stars RNG is fun 2 Royal flushes in 5 hands at my table   gotta love the guy flat calling my bet of quad Tens instead of moving me all in.. that was kind i reckon..



PokerStars Hand #80533015516:  Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/05/16 11:14:36 ET
Table "Eduarda III" 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: gun333106 ($19.02 in chips)
Seat 2: JIugep ($9.10 in chips)
Seat 3: xdolalzz ($11.15 in chips)
Seat 4: Olavius ($21.78 in chips)
Seat 5: Fandango ($14.46 in chips)
Seat 6: NonnieP ($24.15 in chips)
Fandango: posts small blind $0.10
NonnieP: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fandango [ ]
gun333106: folds
JIugep: calls $0.25
xdolalzz: folds
Olavius: calls $0.25
Fandango: calls $0.15
NonnieP: checks
*** FLOP *** [ ]
Fandango: checks
NonnieP: checks
JIugep: checks
Olavius: bets $0.25
Fandango: folds
NonnieP: folds
JIugep: calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [ ] []
JIugep: checks
Olavius: bets $0.25
JIugep: calls $0.25
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
JIugep: bets $0.75
Olavius: calls $0.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JIugep: shows [Ts As ] (HI: a Royal Flush)
Olavius: mucks hand
JIugep collected $3.34 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3.50 | Rake $0.16
Board [ ]
Seat 1: gun333106 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: JIugep showed [Ts As ] and won ($3.34) with HI: a Royal Flush
Seat 3: xdolalzz folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: Olavius (button) mucked [ ]
Seat 5: Fandango (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: NonnieP (big blind) folded on the Flop
...





PokerStars Hand #80533154011:  Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/05/16 11:17:40 ET
Table "Eduarda III" 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: gun333106 ($19.94 in chips)
Seat 2: mje444 ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 3: xdolalzz ($10.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Olavius ($19.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Fandango ($13.83 in chips)
Seat 6: NonnieP ($24.40 in chips)
xdolalzz: posts small blind $0.10
Olavius: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Fandango [td ]
Fandango: raises $0.25 to $0.50
NonnieP: folds
gun333106: calls $0.50
mje444: folds
xdolalzz: folds
Olavius: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Th Ts ]
Olavius: checks
Fandango: bets $0.50
gun333106: calls $0.50
Olavius: folds
*** TURN *** [Th Ts ] []
Fandango: checks
gun333106: checks
*** RIVER *** [Th Ts ] [Tc]
Fandango: checks
gun333106: bets $1
Fandango: raises $1.75 to $2.75
gun333106: calls $1.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Fandango: shows [td ] (HI: four of a kind, Tens)
gun333106: shows [ ] (HI: a Royal Flush)
gun333106 collected $7.74 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $8.10 | Rake $0.36
Board [Th Ts Tc]
Seat 1: gun333106 showed [ ] and won ($7.74) with HI: a Royal Flush
Seat 2: mje444 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: xdolalzz (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Olavius (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Fandango showed [td ] and lost with HI: four of a kind, Tens
Seat 6: NonnieP folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[AMRN]

lol wtf?? flat calling on the end with a Royal?  Minimising value!!

[fandango]

lol wtf?? flat calling on the end with a Royal?  Minimising value!!

Obv scared I had five of a kind  YAHTZEE !!!

[Santino67]

  Best missread ever, we should be greatful, not mocking