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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2012, 11:28:17 AM »
What"s the question ?    ;D

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2012, 11:41:56 AM »

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2012, 11:58:03 AM »


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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2012, 12:56:26 PM »



Massively against, as I would imagine all the couples are.

Theoretically £300 for a weekend? I love APAT, but that"s way out of my bankroll.


Nobody is forcing you to re-enter. It"s just a backstop for first few levels for those that may want to take it up. I can"t see it affecting the play that much tbh


But as has been said before - if you can afford to re-enter you will have an advantage over those who can"t.

People who can re-enter will be more likely to accumulate a bigger chip stack earlier on because they will be able to take more risks.

A few people who have got knocked out in the first level in the past might go to an event when they otherwise wouldn"t - but they"ll be greatly outnumbered by the people who know they"ll be at a competitive disadvantage to those with a bigger bankroll.

Even if it ended up not affecting how people play (which it should, unless people with the re-entry option played sub-optimally) - it would be too late by then, the fact that they have that theoretical advantage will already have stopped people from entering.



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On another note I think as a side event, perhaps in a festival a £5 re buy £10 add on would be a fun tourney.. Gives those who fancy a gamble early on to build a stack, whilst nits could perhaps take advantage and make a nice score from a poultry buy in/add on.. 20 min blinds re buys available till end of  level 5 add on for £10..?
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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2012, 21:20:59 PM »
mmm....NO from me. If I could afford it (which I can"t) I would play every draw in first two levels - happy days if i hit, hand in pocket if i don"t.
Not in the spirit of APAT imo.

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2012, 21:48:42 PM »

mmm....NO from me. If I could afford it (which I can"t) I would play every draw in first two levels - happy days if i hit, hand in pocket if i don"t.
Not in the spirit of APAT imo.


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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2012, 22:13:44 PM »


mmm....NO from me. If I could afford it (which I can"t) I would play every draw in first two levels - happy days if i hit, hand in pocket if i don"t.
Not in the spirit of APAT imo.


errr Mark , you play every draw in the first 10 levels anyway??? ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2012, 22:46:06 PM »
As at the moment there is no re-entry , I don"t play every DRAW ;D, only those with a calculated +ev risk

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2012, 23:28:46 PM »

As at the moment there is no re-entry , I don"t play every DRAW ;D, only those with a calculated +ev risk and a few with -ev risk as well, in fact all draws


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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2012, 01:03:50 AM »
    i personally disagree with rebuy/re-entry at apat events on the basis that we travel  a great distance to play in them  and i would be really annoyed if after knocking someone out  on my table and i got moved to the same persons table then  knocked out of tourney by him/her i would personally feel cheated,  if i wanted to play in rebuy/re-entry i would just drive up the road to my local casino so i vote a resounding  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2012, 15:43:46 PM »
DTD were the innovators behind re-entry, but even they are now pulling away from the concept.... That should tell us something.

Level playing field FTW.

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2012, 16:04:38 PM »

DTD were the innovators behind re-entry, but even they are now pulling away from the concept.... That should tell us something.

Level playing field FTW.


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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2012, 17:59:35 PM »

DTD were the innovators behind re-entry, but even they are now pulling away from the concept.... That should tell us something.

Level playing field FTW.


In this country maybe, but lots of Las Vegas cardrooms have always allowed re-entry; and at the levels of juice they charge why wouldn"t they??

DTD"s move away from re-entries may in part be down to Rob"s "level playing field" ideal, but I suspect it is more driven by a simple formula... (Increased Tournament Juice)<(Lost Cash Game Rake).

When the gaming regulations surrounding poker were relaxed a few years ago I was quite happy with much of the freedom this now allows i.e. Late reg, Alternates. But allowing the charging of juice on re-buys (sorry, re-entry) is definitely not something I am in favour of.

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Re: Re-Entry or No Re-Entry, that is the question
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2012, 02:19:08 AM »
To have a re-entry or not...i am against re-entry for the simple reason of that point that Richard said playeres playing wild nowing they have a re-entry....and theN rivering somebody that is playing their game.....Tournament Poker for me should be ....You Pay...You Play your game if you lose you are out simple has that.....so often i see re-entry tournaments-------people playing they game and on asshole or two with the oldest excuse in the Book....HMMMMMMMM I HAVE TO PAY I HAVE 1 OUT....AND I CAN RE-ENTRY WHY NOT LETS PAY FOR MY ONE OUT...AND BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ...................IT CAME................AND YOU THAT MADE ALWAYS THE RIGHT MOVES ARE AT THE CASHIER WASTING YOUR MONEY BECAUSE ONE DONK HAD STILL A RE-ENTRY AND DECIDED TO HAVE A BINGO GO......SO NO TO THE RE-ENTRIES A SAY.......YOU LOSE TOUGH ...........GO FISH TO THE POND I SAY!!!!!