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Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« on: August 14, 2012, 19:05:44 PM »
As you"ll see i just raised in EP with QQ then 2 tight players behind both shove. I"ve also just recently doubled up to 12k to get back into it...............

PokerStars Hand #84718967889: Tournament #612011332, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2012/08/14 13:25:25 ET
Table "612011332 114" 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: andrezz_b (8719 in chips)
Seat 2: /7oKepp (2250 in chips)
Seat 3: bapsilva (9565 in chips)
Seat 4: papio86 (4661 in chips)
Seat 5: maal1904 (13604 in chips)
Seat 6: LUCKY7CLOVER (14144 in chips)
Seat 7: nutzho (16907 in chips)
Seat 8: SantinoAPAT (13452 in chips)
Seat 9: kuzla (8844 in chips)
andrezz_b: posts the ante 50
/7oKepp: posts the ante 50
bapsilva: posts the ante 50
papio86: posts the ante 50
maal1904: posts the ante 50
LUCKY7CLOVER: posts the ante 50
nutzho: posts the ante 50
SantinoAPAT: posts the ante 50
kuzla: posts the ante 50
bapsilva: posts small blind 200
papio86: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SantinoAPAT [ Qc  Qh]
maal1904: folds
LUCKY7CLOVER: folds
nutzho: folds
SantinoAPAT: raises 588 to 988
kuzla: raises 7806 to 8794 and is all-in
andrezz_b: folds
/7oKepp has timed out
/7oKepp: folds
/7oKepp is sitting out
bapsilva: raises 721 to 9515 and is all-in
papio86: folds
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2012, 19:14:08 PM »
I fold in this spot.. you fold still have 20+ BB, against 2 all ins think at least one has AA/KK ..maybe call if it was HU.
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 20:23:46 PM »
Stats for the tight players?

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 20:45:32 PM »
 Depends but call this in this comp, think jacks is close to a fold but prob not in this donkfest though
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 22:20:50 PM »
Don"t think I can fold QQ in this tourney in this spot

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 22:26:17 PM »
OK wait a minute while I think - oh yes - CALL (to be fair I would have shoved pre - buts thats me - see you in DTD)  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 22:37:12 PM »
Im calling here

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 23:04:51 PM »

Stats for the tight players?


Don"t have any mate, just that there were a couple of aggro players at table but these 2 were pretty tight, though bapsilva lost half his stack not long before this with 2 pairs.
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 23:25:57 PM »
Call & pray in this tourney.
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2012, 10:00:15 AM »

Call & pray in this tourney.


Anyone folding here needs to give up poker.

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2012, 12:10:31 PM »
I would definitely call, and given that it is Poker stars one or both will have AK , there will be one or the other and you will river a Q.

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 09:14:49 AM »

I fold in this spot.. you fold still have 20+ BB, against 2 all ins think at least one has AA/KK ..maybe call if it was HU.


I agree with this, I often find it hard to fold the ladies when there are two all ins, in a middle or late stage tourny,but in the Big 8.80 people arn"t going to mess around with A2 I don"t think.

it"s best to fold here. gl!

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 09:21:45 AM »
I think the hand is too strong compared to your stack size to fold.

Only paranoia is going to make people assume one of them has AA or KK, even tight people are shoving in this spot with high Aces and mid to high pairs. You"re in good shape against almost all of their combined range and great shape against a fair proportion of it.

Having said that, it"s relative, I think you"re looking at being around and slightly less than 50% to win the hand - but at this stage with that stack size and the potential stack size you"ll have if the QQ holds I think you need to call if you"re serious about trying to get a final table or top 3 finish
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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 09:56:54 AM »
Insta-call.

I think some people are vastly overestimating the standard of players on Stars in a small buy-in big field tourney if they think one of them must have AA/KK or that they couldn"t have ace rag. Wouldn"t surprise me in the least if they turned over A-J suited and pocket fives, or worse!

Given the top heavy nature of the payout and the chance to treble your stack you may as well fold pre if you"re looking at folding here.

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Re: Big $8.80 with QQ - What to do?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 15:46:25 PM »

Insta-call.

I think some people are vastly overestimating the standard of players on Stars in a small buy-in big field tourney if they think one of them must have AA/KK or that they couldn"t have ace rag. Wouldn"t surprise me in the least if they turned over A-J suited and pocket fives, or worse!

Given the top heavy nature of the payout and the chance to treble your stack you may as well fold pre if you"re looking at folding here.



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