Format for the National Online Cup Final.

[Matt D]

[AMRN]

I"m not involved, so probably not much right to contribute opinion.... however I will anyway

Two points re scoring:

1. Should probably be 7 points for the win, down to 1pt for 7th, and zero for 8th (gotta have a bagel in there!)

2. Headsup - only 1pt for the winner? Seems to devalue it a bit, when compared to the STT points values. At ECOAP, a Headsup win was the same as 5th place in the STT, which seems a bit more like it.

[Matt D]

I"m not involved, so probably not much right to contribute opinion.... however I will anyway

Two points re scoring:

1. Should probably be 7 points for the win, down to 1pt for 7th, and zero for 8th (gotta have a bagel in there!)

2. Headsup - only 1pt for the winner? Seems to devalue it a bit, when compared to the STT points values. At ECOAP, a Headsup win was the same as 5th place in the STT, which seems a bit more like it.

Aye we were only going to have 1 day for the final - say Wednesday, and fit everything in that day: omaha, hold"em and headsup. However, with 3 tables on the go at once I think it could be too busy and confusing, especially for those not used to the software.

So, I decided to split the final across 2 dates instead. That gave room for 1 more round of heads up matches. It was initially set-up so that the heads up matches would be worth 2 points each. But, now we"re playing twice as many of them, I halved the points.

I think even with just 1 point per HU match, just 1 or 2 points could settle the whole thing.

I"m most interested to see how play pans out on the STTs.. With 4 players from each team sat at the same table, seat draw is very important!

[Starshine]

can"t it be a hilo???

[Matt D]

can"t it be a hilo???

ha, just standard this time round. Maybe next time?...

[Matt D]

Update: Heads up will be 2 points per win after all, and 0 for the loss.

I"ll update the first post now.

[Sugar_Free]

Looking forward to playing these formats, will the third place play off be on the same nights? (not that we"ll be in it)

[Curlarge]

Whilst playing NLHE and PLO is something I personally do regularly, I can see that this change of format may well hinder some teams, where players dont regularly play PLO. It may be the case that some players have never even played it before, thus putting their team at a huge disadvantage.

In addition, why are we playing 2 different games at the same time? I never (previous apat onlines aside) play more than one table at a time as I feel I get a much better handle on peoples play by watching just one table. The format has changed hugely by the PLO inclusion and this certainly wasn"t mentioned in the original post. The final match will feature heads up and sit & go rounds to determine the winning team.  A third place playoff will also take place utilising the final format

I"m struggling to see why these matches can"t be played on different nights, especially as they are completely different games!

Personally I"m all for the format overall, but not playing it at the same time.

[chrish1976]

whats the point of the 3rd place play off? I thought that only the winners won seats at the worlds. ignore there are medals to be won i see

[Rhino56]

I echo what Curlarge has said. While I enjoy  playing omaha, it would be difficult to play at the same time as playing Heads up. I find that when playing Heads Up the action is constant and it is impossible to other games simultaneously.

[Swinebag]

It may be the case that some players have never even played it before, thus putting their team at a huge disadvantage.

true but hardly unfair.

Its like a cricket team playing on a "bunsen" then whinging that they don"t have any spinners

It is a poker comp after all and was never promoted as an exclusive NLHE comp

[Curlarge]

It may be the case that some players have never even played it before, thus putting their team at a huge disadvantage.

true but hardly unfair.

Its like a cricket team playing on a "bunsen" then whinging that they don"t have any spinners

It is a poker comp after all and was never promoted as an exclusive NLHE comp

Totally disagree Rob. There was no mention made of PLO being anypart of this comp., therefore it"s a massive disadvantage to anyone who doesn"t know how to play it. Like I said, I doesn"t affect me, but it will affect others.

And using your cricket analagy, it"s nothing like the same, as each cricket team will have had a chance to look at the wicket before announcing their team. To continue the theme, this is a bit like playing 3 test matches and then 2 ODI"s to decide the overall series.

[Starshine]

Well should my team reach the final, I can predict that if we win it won be up to me

as I can promise I won"t get any points for my team, well probably 1 point in the sit and go, but that"s it.

Having heads up at the same time than the sit and go, I know I would crap both completely

and I would not even enjoy it, which i think we should

I would prefer the heads up an hour before the other games or on a different day, and before anyone tells me heads up is just a few mins while the sit and go, yes may be, may be not, my longest heads up was 90 mins, and I would not have liked playing any other table with it. So the solution to go as 1st player in hu and go on sitout or late reg in the sit and go will surely not work with me

Some players might be wizards in multitabling, others aren"t (does not make a bad player)

[Swinebag]

It may be the case that some players have never even played it before, thus putting their team at a huge disadvantage.

true but hardly unfair.

Its like a cricket team playing on a "bunsen" then whinging that they don"t have any spinners

It is a poker comp after all and was never promoted as an exclusive NLHE comp

Totally disagree Rob. There was no mention made of PLO being anypart of this comp., therefore it"s a massive disadvantage to anyone who doesn"t know how to play it. Like I said, I doesn"t affect me, but it will affect others.

And using your cricket analagy, it"s nothing like the same, as each cricket team will have had a chance to look at the wicket before announcing their team. To continue the theme, this is a bit like playing 3 test matches and then 2 ODI"s to decide the overall series.

There was also no mention that it was exclusively NLHE

however you are right, the cricket analogy is pretty poor

[Sugar_Free]

I"m not keen on playing HU the same time as the SNG either