Call/Fold Here - another one

[AAroddersAA]

180 Man Turbo Tournament on Pokerstars

50 players remaining, I have a top 10 stack average is around 5.5K.

PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|300/600 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP+1: 11,772.00
CO: 1,043.00
BTN: 5,675.00
SB: 5,880.00 (Playing 15/12)
Hero (BB): 11,566.00
UTG: 6,055.00
UTG+1: 8,198.00
MP: 6,519.00

MP+1 posts ante 50.00, CO posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, UTG posts ante 50.00, UTG+1 posts ante 50.00, MP posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, Hero posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (1300.00) Hero has

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 5,830.00 and is all-in, Hero ?

[Paulie_D]

Now here I reluctantly fold....I"m comfortably positioned to get much deeper.

Am I ahead of his likely shoving range?....50/50 I"d say and I don"t need to be silly at this stage.

[AMRN]

a loooong way out from the bubble, this might be a great spot to call imo.    

We need to consider the tendencies of the SB though - how often does he shove when it"s folded round to him?  A decent player will be shoving super-wide in the SB when it"s folded round - so we now have to decide if he"s a decent player or not... if he"s a nit, then it"s a fold, but if he"s a good reg, it"s a snap call.

[Marty719]

Must be a snap, esp with antes.  

[mal666]

Snap !

[WYoung83]

i call quite easily here.

[Paulie_D]

I must be a nit...but that"s nothing we didn"t already know.

[dwh103]

Easy call.

Maths:

Effective stacks are ~6.78 adj BBs (basically factors in Antes) therefore a Nash shoving range is 66.4% http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hucalculator.html?action=calculate&r=6.78. This assumes the BB also calls optimally with a 49.9% range. In reality, calling ranges are wayyyyy too tight, so he"s probably justified with jamming ATC. SB stats of 15/12 suggest TAG and perhaps competent enough to not turn this spot down.

88 has 63.94% equity vs a 66.4% range, and 69.16% against ATC. Even against an uber-nitty range of any pair, broadway and A8+ you"re 53.3%

Phil Ivey does not have a big enough edge to turn down this spot with the tournament average stack of 10BBs. There is far more value in getting to 30BBs here yourself and having a buffer to allow you to abuse the hell out of the bubble when it arrives.

[Fatcatstu]

It is folded to  SB, who shoves.

Sod maths. I have a pair.

Right in your eye sir.

Lose to k3o

[deanp27]

snap his cock off

[Swinebag]

nearer the bubble you can justify a fold (just) but happy to call this off

[BOINGBLITZ]

Call.....if you are passing in this spot in a turbo, then don"t play turbo"s.....IMO  

[KarmaDope]

Easy call, esp bvb, im assuming hes a reg from his stats you give and the shoving range there for them is MASSIVE.