River Play

[hi_am_chris]

How do you play river? Check RRAI? Bet  half his stack? Jam?

Seat 1: hary72 ( $11,460 )
Seat 2: davorbo ( $17,210 )
Seat 3: nagan16 ( $2,300 )
Seat 4: jorhe11 ( $5,083 )
Seat 5: Chrishiam ( $13,866 )
Seat 6: gliga86 ( $2,400 )
Seat 7: Pokarp ( $16,991 )
Seat 9: FireAces13 ( $6,609 )
Seat 10: digbylady ( $8,837 )
nagan16 posts small blind [$100]
jorhe11 posts big blind [$200]

Dealt to Chrishiam [ , As ]
Chrishiam raises [$500]
gliga86 folds
Pokarp folds
FireAces13 folds
digbylady calls [$500]
hary72 calls [$500]
davorbo folds
nagan16 folds
jorhe11 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ , , ]
Chrishiam bets [$888]
digbylady calls [$888]
hary72 calls [$888]
** Dealing turn ** [ ]
Chrishiam bets [$2,999]
digbylady calls [$2,999]
hary72 folds
** Dealing river ** [ ]

[Swinebag]

Some of the HH is missing. Need stack sizes here. Early indications would appear to show that a big net is in order.

[hi_am_chris]

dint realise id missed it off, cheers rob, he has bout 4500 on the river left i think ... i know its obv not a tricky spot just don"t like missing value lol

[Marty719]

If he only has 4,500 and there is over 10k already in the pot, then I can"t see how we have any option except putting it in.  Anything else would just be burning money.

[hi_am_chris]

My agrument for check raise all in would be that it"s so hard for him to have anything but a draw here isn"t it?

We have the deck crushed so it"s really hard for him to have an ace here and it"s pretty unlikely he calls all in with a jack isn"t it? If he has a set it would have gone in by now so general. Kinda feel like theres much more missed flush draws and missed gutshots here than a hand he can call a bet with so is it better to give him a chance bluff a missed draw than it is to put him all in?

[Marty719]

My agrument for check raise all in would be that it"s so hard for him to have anything but a draw here isn"t it?

We have the deck crushed so it"s really hard for him to have an ace here and it"s pretty unlikely he calls all in with a jack isn"t it? If he has a set it would have gone in by now so general. Kinda feel like theres much more missed flush draws and missed gutshots here than a hand he can call a bet with so is it better to give him a chance bluff a missed draw than it is to put him all in?

When he has less than half pot back, I think its more likely that he calls with a J, than goes call/call/jam with a missed draw.  Pressume with a shallow stack we would have heard from a combo draw at an earlier stage.

[deanp27]

Readless I"m just putting the rest in on the river

[Swinebag]

Readless I"m just putting the rest in on the river

This.

I know what you are thinking with checking to induce but given how much he has put in so far, I can"t see a draw here enough times that justifies a check.

[hi_am_chris]

Cheers guys for the replies, i did jam pretty much snap folded, maybe im trying to overcomplicate things, i know he can still turn up with an ace here sometimes just not sure if hes calling all in with just a jack at the end too often.

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