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I agree to bubble payments when...

Never
7 (30.4%)
When I am shortstacked
5 (21.7%)
Always
5 (21.7%)
When the rest of the table pressure me to agree
0 (0%)
When I'm playing with a table of 'friends'
6 (26.1%)

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Voting closed: October 02, 2012, 12:58:11 PM

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Bubble payments
« on: September 25, 2012, 12:58:11 PM »
Pretty much what it says.

I"m in the "never" camp.
But there are occasions where we"re in a minority of one at the table and it becomes unpleasant.
Do you change your view in those circumstances?
Or when the game is, in essence, a "social" occurrence?
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 13:10:09 PM »
Although I was the bubble at the GUKPT Stockton 6-max and didnt get a dime for 5th.. sigh.. I quite liked the red card / black card system they had for discussing deals etc. Totally anonymous way of doing it.. and if you didnt want to discuss deals no one was 100% sure who was keen / not keen.

ps.. above guess puts me into the "Shortstack" camp as was desperate for another Hendon flag.. but also into the "with friends" camp as well.. as I"m nice like that.. not that it happens that often.. cant think we"ve ever done it as part of our Stockon Massive games either.. mainly due to the fact its normally Stu that bubbles  ;) x
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2012, 13:26:42 PM »
Those wanting a saver can GTFO
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2012, 15:02:27 PM »
Interesting question. I always say yes whether big or small stack.

However, I have twice refused to pay the bubble. On one occasion it was because the vehement NO BUBBLE chip leader had the cheek to change his mind after he had his KK re-shove beat by 2nd in chips AA and he became the short stack (GTFO) - we busted him and then laughed, waved etc. TBF I wasn"t the only one saying no at that point, and he wasn"t happy.
The second was when a guy who always refused suddenly in today"s game wanted to agree when he had 2 chips. I pointed out to him that I wasn"t going to let him "have his cake..." and we busted him.

There was an occasion in the Venetian where 16 left 15 paid I was a short stack and the other table wanted to pay the bubble. It"s not a question I raise when I"m a shortie so happy to agree if others are offering. An Israeli guy on my table was very anti and despite pressure from almost everyone he was the only one saying no. Anyway I ended up the bubble and to my total embarrassment four or 5 people got up from various seats and each handed me $20, and wouldn"t let me hand it back. I felt miserable to bubble after 6 hours and even more miserable to be given money in that way. Anyways I took Deb to that noodle place across from the card room with the cash and we had a nice tea on them, fair play.
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 15:05:31 PM »
PS to those who said "when I am short-stacked", shame on you!
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 15:22:58 PM »
Back on topic for those monitoring.

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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 16:34:34 PM »
I would vote never but if I was on a table with mates, I would be happy to pay a saver












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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 17:04:07 PM »
Played at Gala in Leeds, we were down to 28, 27 got paid 26 agreed to it 1 didn't. I was chipped up at the time but did not mind it even when it was coming out off 1st place. The guy who was short stack at the time got bustard then went on to verbal abuse the guy who said no, it was only for £40
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 17:15:11 PM »
Quote from: nosey-p on September 25, 2012, 17:04:07 PM

even when it was coming out off 1st place.


Never understood this logic.

Why should 1st place give up more just for a saver. If everyone agrees, everyone pays equally.

If there are 11 left (paying 10) and you want a £20 saver then everyone slaps £2 on the table to pay the bubble. Simples :)

Otherwise, GTFO
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 18:00:21 PM »
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 18:17:03 PM »
I clicked always but only done it one. I wouldn"t mind it if it aint taking much off top spot tbh. I never bubble  :D :D ;D
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 18:23:13 PM »
Think an extra option should be added ...

For when its late and playing "live" heads up for the next hour will depress me
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 19:00:31 PM »
Quote from: hi_am_chris on September 25, 2012, 18:23:13 PM

Think an extra option should be added ...

For when its late and playing "live" heads up for the next hour will depress me


That"s the next poll... Do we do deals, and when.
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 19:34:40 PM »
People who have skill edge are literally burning money when doing deals in local live comps. Often recreational players won"t adjust ranges and u can raise almost every hand with little resistance.

Having said that if you"re a reg I can see how dealing can work out in the longer term
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Re: Bubble payments
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 20:36:29 PM »
It"s my pet hate when people fold their way to the FT then expect a saver, even though they only have a bowl left.

I would also never ask for a saver if I was a short/micro stack, though if it was offered, I"d be silly to turn it down.

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