APAT Bunch Of Fives

[Outlander]

The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...

I"d rather spend 4.5 hrs playing poker than watching the drivel that"s on TV most nights... if you"re playing for the money the Bunch of Fives probably wouldnt be the first choice so it"s more about enjoyment and personally I"ve thought the structure was fine and would have loved my participation in the events to have gone on longer (especially tonight ) I struggle for 7pm start coz I start work later, other people have to be at work earlier so might not appreciate later start... but at least they"d have the sweetner that they"d probably have made the cash the night before if it did turn out to be a problem for them.

[MintTrav]

Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

3 hours for a 7-player tournament? You"re kidding. It took longer than the Hold-em, which had 33 players?

That suggests there"s either a problem with the structure or a problem with the players, probably the former.

There were a lot more players in the 5CD last week. It would be interesting to know how long that took.

[Matt D]

Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

3 hours for a 7-player tournament? You"re kidding. It took longer than the Hold-em, which had 33 players?

That suggests there"s either a problem with the structure or a problem with the players, probably the former.

There were a lot more players in the 5CD last week. It would be interesting to know how long that took.

Friday 9th Nov.: 5 Card Draw (20) = 10.21pm.

Just 21 minutes more.

[Outlander]

Leaderboard for week 2: http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=12548

Even more miffed now having seen final table... dont mind finishing third but would have liked the chance to have finished higher... low numbers also deprived those who did take part in 5CD of a chance at Top 2 place. As I didnt cash in any of the events it was the added-value prizes which kept my interest. Had there been late reg things could have changed although I suspect Tony was probably intending to take part via late reg as well so it"s quite probable nothing would have altered. Both he and Paul were extremely consistent and are worthy winners but I"m sorry the way it turned out I do feel it was a wasted effort. Also dont see the "as per Boss Network Rules" in first announcement at bottom of thread (not that that would have made any diff as I"m not familiar with those rules anyway). Appreciate all the effort that goes into organising these events but situations like this dont help increase the number of people participating... it"s really put me off... although I hope that changes before next week comes around.

[AMRN]

Good idea.

Though, if we start at 8pm the game will run on 1 hour later obviously (all other things being equal).

The end times of this week"s games were (number of runners in brackets):

Monday: Pot Limit Omaha (34) = 10.17pm
Tuesday: Hold'em (33) = 9.54pm
Wednesday: 7 Card Stud (28) = 11.26pm
Thursday: Pot Limit Omaha H/L (24) = 10.25pm
Friday: 5 Card Draw (7) = 10pm

If we move everything an hour later that could mean some games run on a bit too late. Though, we could also look at altering the blind structures? e.g Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...

The Limit games will always run longer, and structures can be speeded up a bit without overly damaging the tourney, however please don"t change the NL or PL structures - they are spot on (escpecially the PLO8 structure!   )

Agree with reversing the order - 5 card draw is a bit of an anomalous game to some people, and putting it up front is likely to get more runners that putting at the end when a lot of people will avoid it because they have no chance of winning the league. I would suggest putting the NLHE round at the end to try and maximise attendance.

Start time at 7 or 8 - 7 is preferable to me, but not much difference between 7 and 8 in reality.

Lastly - Boss late reg rules.... have to ask... Why?  I don"t think Stars has ever done this with late reg. Seems daft for something to be advertised with late reg, only for someone to find the registration closed immediately after the start - surely from Boss"s perspective, that"s a negative restriction on their own business?

[Sugar_Free]

Firstly, I"m very sorry about the lack of league updates. That is 100% my fault. Leigh jetted off on holiday yesterday and left me in charge of updating the tables, and although it"s on my "to do" list for today, I missed it and it totally slipped my mind

I think I speak for most people on here when I say I"m glad to hear that it"s nothing more serious than that  

Does 4 and a half hours for a 28 person 7-card-stud game does seem a little long?...

Probably, although while playing it didn"t seem that long. Was a very nice structure but could probably do with being tweaked a little if we have an 8pm start.

2 votes now for 8pm starts and scrapping late reg.

edit: 3 votes (missed one from earlier in thread).

More than that......it"s discussed further in the early parts of the thread, mostly because the late reg is skewing the results.

[Sugar_Free]

Play them in a different order next week.... How about Heads Up instead of one of the 5 or 7 card...?

The software can"t host Razz or HORSE tournaments, let alone a 5 handed heads up tournament

[cincicrappykid]

OH man couldnt reg and found out i missed out by 1 arrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg.

Shame,  well done Paul.

Did i win anything for second?

[MintTrav]

OH man couldnt reg and found out i missed out by 1 arrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggg.

Shame,  well done Paul.

Did i win anything for second?

No. Unlucky, Tony.

[cincicrappykid]

lol

[Chipaccrual]

I leave the country for 5 minutes, and look what happens  

Apologies for the confusion guys, as Matt has mentioned, the late reg rule is network driven, so we don"t have any control over that.

It"s about keeping a balance with start time and finish time, and if the general consensus is to change it, then I"m sure Matt can get that sorted.

Leigh

[Chipaccrual]

Congrats to Paul and Tony who have made the Grand Final in December.

With those two taking their seats, the final will be even grander than originally planned  

[redsimon]

Id prefer later start time, with NLHE being event 5 and draw being event 1 , might increase numbers for draw?

[NellieG]

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.

This was the first time I tried to late register as unfortunately I had visitors and only missed it by at the most 1 minute which was frustrating. However, I did get on to support who sent me an email to say "There has to be a minimum of 10 players to have late registration"

[Matt D]

Just a quick update re: late reg.

On Boss late reg. comes into effect if there are more than 7 players registered (or left) in a tournament. If there are 7 or less then there is no late reg.

A quick look at the lobby with tonight"s results, shows just 7 players were registered at the time the tourney started, meaning there would be no late reg. This is correct.

It"s also worth bearing in mind, that if 8 players registered then there would be late reg. However, if at any point the number of players hits 7 (or below) then late reg. ends.

This was the first time I tried to late register as unfortunately I had visitors and only missed it by at the most 1 minute which was frustrating. However, I did get on to support who sent me an email to say "There has to be a minimum of 10 players to have late registration"

Thanks for the heads up. That is definitely incorrect info you were told though.

It used to be 7 or more players = late reg. Now it appears Boss have changed this to 8 or more players for some reason (I need to check this with them on Monday). It"s definitely less than 10 though.