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Jon MW

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Re: Queens in the Big Blind in Portugal
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2012, 12:14:53 PM »


If people are calling min raises light they are almost certainly calling shoves at least as light, especially as this is live.


This is the bit I am not sure I agree with.

From my limited live experience, these types of players will merrily peel off 25% of their stack but when asked to call for their tournament lives - will tighten up significantly. If that is the case then I dont want to give hands that we crush a reason to fold.


While I think that"s true, I think a lot of them will call an all in with their pocket pairs -and we definitely lose value from them on most flops. Given that a lot of the other combinations are going to fold anyway when they don"t hit the flop I can"t see anyway that you don"t lose value by not shoving pre.

And it"s a no lose situation because with these stack sizes the extra you gain from just winning blinds and ante"s makes it worthwhile by itself.
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Re: Queens in the Big Blind in Portugal
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2012, 12:59:03 PM »

I make it level 5 ? so roughly 2hrs 15mins played. Trying not to be too harsh Phil but you really should have better reads than this on the individual players at your table.


You"re right Brendan. I deduced they were all Portuguese. Apart from Curly  ;) x


Phil,

As played CRAI - this hand is really simple. The flat is sort of OK btw (much better than a min raise) although a shove is still much better. What was you plan on a flop of:-

A-9-4 or
K-7-2

PS - for fun equity please tell me he had a two and a three that would be too good *lol*


*lol* 2/3 would have been comic genius.. although it was bad enough the first time :)

As played... I LOVED the flop, checked, and waited for a bet to shove over... that never came...  check... check.. bad times... wishing I"d just shoved it first :-\

Turn comes 9. Still happy.

Board now 9 10 3 3

First to act.. checked again as saw initial raiser glance down at chips. Check from limper, bet of small amount of 1.5k by initial raiser.

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Re: Queens in the Big Blind in Portugal
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2012, 13:22:18 PM »
Jam now.

Prefer just open shoving rather than checking again on the turn.