The Official APAT UK PingPong Championships, Sunday 27th January in Luton!

[Matt D]

2 leagues of 8 players each.
Everyone plays 2 games vs each other. 1 point for a win. 0 for a loss.
Top 4 from each league progress to QFs.

224 before the QF"s - all day jobbie then  

Ha, there"s no way it"s that many

Each game is one set, so it"s more like 48 isn"t it?...

edit: Have just borrowed a pen and paper and have done the math... I think it"s 88?... If we say just 1 game that"s 44....

[MintTrav]

2 leagues of 8 players each.
Everyone plays 2 games vs each other. 1 point for a win. 0 for a loss.
Top 4 from each league progress to QFs.

224 before the QF"s - all day jobbie then  

Ha, there"s no way it"s that many

Each game is one set, so it"s more like 48 isn"t it?...

edit: Have just borrowed a pen and paper and have done the math... I think it"s 88?... If we say just 1 game that"s 44....

Anyone for 56?

[Matt D]

2 leagues of 8 players each.
Everyone plays 2 games vs each other. 1 point for a win. 0 for a loss.
Top 4 from each league progress to QFs.

224 before the QF"s - all day jobbie then  

Ha, there"s no way it"s that many

Each game is one set, so it"s more like 48 isn"t it?...

edit: Have just borrowed a pen and paper and have done the math... I think it"s 88?... If we say just 1 game that"s 44....

Anyone for 56?

ooops, you"re right. No idea how I ended up with 44...

So... if we have 2 leagues of 8 players each, and everyone in each league plays just 1 set against each other player in their league, then I make it:

7+6+5+4+3+2+1 games = 28 games x 2 leagues = 56 sets x 4 mins a set = 224 minutes = eeeek. Divide that by 2 tables = 112 minutes.

Then all the other shizzle as before:
4 x QF (12 games = 48 mins / 2 tables = 24 mins)
2 x SF (6 games = 24 min / 2 tables = 12 mins)
1 x F (5 games = 20 min / 1 table = 20 min)

24+12+20 = 56 mins.

Total time: 112 + 56 = 168 minutes. 2hrs 48mins.

That"s a saving of 8 minutes vs. having 4 leagues, and everyone playing best of 3 matches through the whole tourney... Tough call..

The advantage of having just 2 leagues, is that it makes it a lot easier to organise with the inevitable no shows...

[AJDUK]

All assuming just 1 table? So the key is finding somewhere with more than 1.
Vauxhall sports centre is a pretty big place......

Still prefer to play 3 games against each player so 4 leagues of 4 is my preference.

[Matt D]

All assuming just 1 table? So the key is finding somewhere with more than 1.

It"s assuming 2 tables. If we can only find one then a serious rethink is required!

Vauxhall sports centre is a pretty big place......

Still prefer to play 3 games against each player so 4 leagues of 4 is my preference.

I"ve shot these guys (http://www.tabletennis365.com/luton) an email. Reckon they"ll know a good place.
Maybe they"ll even chuck in a scorer/ref for free

[AMRN]

Still, if we finish at 1.30pm that gives an hour to get back to hotel and then to casino = doable. And of course, everyone who hasn"t qualified for the QFs can head off after the RR round if they like.

Think you"ll find most will have already checked out of the hotel on Sunday morning, so won"t need to head back for shower/change - that will have to be done at the Leisure Centre

[Matt D]

Still, if we finish at 1.30pm that gives an hour to get back to hotel and then to casino = doable. And of course, everyone who hasn"t qualified for the QFs can head off after the RR round if they like.

Think you"ll find most will have already checked out of the hotel on Sunday morning, so won"t need to head back for shower/change - that will have to be done at the Leisure Centre

Good point.

Or, just not bother and make for a very smelly day 2!

[MintTrav]

Still, if we finish at 1.30pm that gives an hour to get back to hotel and then to casino = doable. And of course, everyone who hasn"t qualified for the QFs can head off after the RR round if they like.

Think you"ll find most will have already checked out of the hotel on Sunday morning, so won"t need to head back for shower/change - that will have to be done at the Leisure Centre

Good point.

Or, just not bother and make for a very smelly day 2!

Most of the names I"ve seen won"t need to worry about what happens on Day 2 - they"ll be able to drive home for a shower straight from the table-tennis.

[BOINGBLITZ]

Count me in please

[HOLDorFOLD]

I would put my name down for this but seeing as I can"t even see what"s right in front of me ... like stairs, banisters, big TD Desks, coffee tables etc ... then seeing a small white ball going at speed really isn"t happening  

[BOINGBLITZ]

Matt....seems u have 18 players interested. No need to exclude anyone.
2 leagues of 5 and 2 leagues of players.
4-player league = 6 games in total (round-robin). That is 6 x 10 mins = 60 mins.
5-player League = 10 games in total. That is 10 x 10 mins = 100 mins.

Run these side-by-side on 2 tables

Then top 2 from each group into Q/Finals = 4 games on 2 tables = 20 mins

S/Finals (best of 3) = 30 mins max

Final (best of 3) = 30 mins max. 

4 hours MAXIMUM and this can be cut down if you only have best of one at the end if time is tight.
Some games wont last 10 mins either.
Also, doing it this way, the 5-man groups can be cut to 4 if you have no-shows.

I dont mind running it for you if you wish. Just seems a shame to limit it to 1`6 players when it is easy to get around it.

If you can only get one table then run it as 2 knockout sections of 9 with top 2 from each meeting up in the semi finals( also easy to run )

Hope this is of help.  

[Chipaccrual]

Matt....seems u have 18 players interested. No need to exclude anyone.
2 leagues of 5 and 2 leagues of players.
4-player league = 6 games in total (round-robin). That is 6 x 10 mins = 60 mins.
5-player League = 10 games in total. That is 10 x 10 mins = 100 mins.

Run these side-by-side on 2 tables

Then top 2 from each group into Q/Finals = 4 games on 2 tables = 20 mins

S/Finals (best of 3) = 30 mins max

Final (best of 3) = 30 mins max. 

4 hours MAXIMUM and this can be cut down if you only have best of one at the end if time is tight.
Some games wont last 10 mins either.
Also, doing it this way, the 5-man groups can be cut to 4 if you have no-shows.

I dont mind running it for you if you wish. Just seems a shame to limit it to 1`6 players when it is easy to get around it.

If you can only get one table then run it as 2 knockout sections of 9 with top 2 from each meeting up in the semi finals( also easy to run )

Hope this is of help.  

Sounds like a man who knows what he"s talking about.

You"re not that bloke who founded the Black Country PingPong Club are you  ?

[Matt D]

Brian, in your example above is the round-robin stage BO1 or BO3?

[Fatcatstu]

Matt....seems u have 18 players interested. No need to exclude anyone.
2 leagues of 5 and 2 leagues of players.
4-player league = 6 games in total (round-robin). That is 6 x 10 mins = 60 mins.
5-player League = 10 games in total. That is 10 x 10 mins = 100 mins.

Run these side-by-side on 2 tables

Then top 2 from each group into Q/Finals = 4 games on 2 tables = 20 mins

S/Finals (best of 3) = 30 mins max

Final (best of 3) = 30 mins max. 

4 hours MAXIMUM and this can be cut down if you only have best of one at the end if time is tight.
Some games wont last 10 mins either.
Also, doing it this way, the 5-man groups can be cut to 4 if you have no-shows.

I dont mind running it for you if you wish. Just seems a shame to limit it to 1`6 players when it is easy to get around it.

If you can only get one table then run it as 2 knockout sections of 9 with top 2 from each meeting up in the semi finals( also easy to run )

Hope this is of help.  

Sounds like a man who knows what he"s talking about.

You"re not that bloke who founded the Black Country PingPong Club are you  ?

GOOD CALL THAT LEIGH!

[BOINGBLITZ]

BEST OF 1.....best of three and u wont play much poker