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Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« on: January 15, 2013, 00:45:27 AM »
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 01:55:46 AM »
Fold pre. This hand isn"t very good and will get you into a whole heap of trouble - as I"m sure you"ve found out.

As played, opponent dependent. Most likely worth a small bet to take control and try to thin the field. Priority is getting to the river as cheaply as possible. Any reads?
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 06:50:19 AM »
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 09:28:06 AM »
totally agree with above... fold pre, but as played I would bet like 2/3rds of the pot and see where I stand.
Fold if you get raised; and if you get called you probably get the river card for free.

You could also check to see the turn and bet if it"s checked to you again... if that happens, you should have the best hand.
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 11:02:43 AM »
the hand is pants, and deserves to be folded pre...... however, it"s a short handed table and we have the button, so not a massive error to play so long as we feel we have something of a post flop edge against the field.

The flop is favourable, however our hand is not the nuts, we have no nut draw (other than an Ace which may split the pot much of the time).... and for those reasons, a cheap showdown is probably our better option, and I check behind. If the turn is a brick, and it checks to us again, then I would bet... or would call if someone lead out.

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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 11:46:34 AM »
Fold pre

Which is probably the default answer to most hands you play in PLO (and hold em) :p

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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2013, 00:10:56 AM »
I"m not in agreement with the others regarding folding pre-flop. I think this hand is very playable on the button, wouldn"t play from the blinds. However it is limited in value and Im not going wild on this flop or getting glued to the hand.

I like the feeler/value bet of £.50 - £1.

However can see all options open here too, both the check for safety but could also play by repping AQ and potting here dependent on opponenets/table, but prefer the smaller bet to avoid tricky decisions later.

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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2013, 09:46:44 AM »
Thanks for all the replies so far, will give my thoughts and post the next bit when I get in from work tonight
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2013, 19:04:23 PM »
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2013, 21:38:25 PM »
I quite like the fact there is not a turn card. It means the dynamic is the same as the flop.

Bet again, more as they may not be a river either in which case your hand is strong :-)
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2013, 01:28:34 AM »
Oh ffs. Ok will try again when I get in. Sigh. Ignore no turn card. Concentrate on the bet you *******!!!
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2013, 12:55:01 PM »
ok paired board, flushed board, no chance of having the nuts....

our hand has very marginal show down value, but certainly not calling any bets on the turn. checking behind on the turn, and hoping for a free showdown on the river...  might consider calling a very small bet after a brick river.

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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2013, 12:55:28 PM »
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2013, 17:32:36 PM »
Oh no there is a turn and it an awful turn.

Hmm OK, lots of full house in his range but why has he checked? We have the lead on te turn so he may well be hoping for us to bet again.

He raised pre so should have some kind of high cards, then he called on the flop so it looks like a set or two pair although he could also have a pair and a flush draw or something like that. Do we have some stats on our opponent here?

I can"t really see what else you can do than check. It give the draws a free card but we are not in great shape against his range here and could be drawing dead.

Check and plan to fold on the river if he bests unless we have a read that says we should not. (I may call a small bet OTR but I am a fish).
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Re: Fatcatstu's Omahahahaha Emporium
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 19:07:43 PM »
Urgh turn :(

With a straight on a paired board you are mostly likely to either win small or lose big. Even worse when you have no nut hands pre / or on the flop.. and this is steadily getting worse.

Check the turn.

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