During last nights game (Quarter Finals) a hand was brought to our attention. On reviewing this hand, it is our opinion that there was a case of chipdumping between two players.
Due to this breach of network rules, we have had no alternative but to disqualify the two players involved from scoring in last nights game and also disqualified them from the remainder of this cup.
We really don"t like having to make this decision, but it is vital we keep the integrity of APAT games, and chipdumping has and always will not be tolerated.
We hope everyone continues to enjoy the remainder of this cup and play it in the spirit expected by APAT and all other players.
Leigh
You"re on really dodgy ground here IMO because in the previous version of this comp. last year, the semi final we played in was rife with exactly this. It was started by 5ugarfree and Suzanne"s team and we were forced to followed suit.
It was allowed (or tolerated) then, debated on here at length, so why is it not allowed now?
The only comparable I can think of is in golf.
Texas Scramble is a very popular golf team game where a team of 4 players aim to get round the course in the fewest shots possible. On each hole they choose which one of their drives they like the best. The other 3 players then pick their ball up and take it to the spot where the best drive is and all players then play their next shot from this point. This continues until the hole is completed.
The R&A (golfs rule makers and governing body) decreed that because the game was not "golf in it"s truest sense", then the "Rules of Golf" where not applicable to this game.
Therefore each club hosting such a team event, could allow certain things, such as all team members standing behind another team member on the green as he is putting, to see which way his putt went, thereby gaining a distinct advantage, by knowing where they should aim their putt, that are not allowed in any other golf format.
This a bad decision IMHO as I bet you they are not the only team to have done this in this comp. Therefore I would support their re-instatement.
I make these comments without knowing which team, or players, are involved. IMO that is irrelevent, fair play must be the victor here.
If APAT want to outlaw this for the next comp. (god only knows how you would police it), then that"s fair enough, but changing things at this stage can"t be right.
This is my post from September 2012.
Congrats to Matt, Sooooz, Phil and Colin on winning their bronze medals this evening, well played.
I would like to suggest the following however, which is not sour grapes as you deserved the win.
When these matches reach the final stages, the STT"s have to be organised correctly, in as much as each player must sit between 2 of the opposition at the start.
We had a, presumed, random draw tonight which sat 3 of our oppo in a line. After Colin was busted, our team then had all 4 players in a line and the chip dumping started.
At one stage Soooz was down to around 5 bigs on the BB and Phil raises from the button, Matt calls, Sue shoves and they both fold instantly. We knew that if they lost the next player we couldn"t lose, and I guess they did as well. It allowed Sue to get back in the game and changed the dynamic completely.
These actions were repeated by both teams (we had no choice but to do the same thing tbh) on numerous occasions and for me spoilt the event.
Like I said, take nothing away from the winners, but this has to be addressed before the next tourney, PLEASE The entire thread is posted here.
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.0
