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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #105 on: February 05, 2013, 13:49:36 PM »


Provisional Structures can be viewed here


Trying to cast my mind back, to former 6 max events, but did APAT have antes kick in level 5?

May be mistaken.. As I think I busted before then  ;D

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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #106 on: February 05, 2013, 13:54:54 PM »
In the structures there are no break times mentioned for the HORSE, Stud , Razz.
Am I right in assuming that they are every 2 hrs like in the Omaha and Holdem?

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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #107 on: February 05, 2013, 14:11:09 PM »

In the structures there are no break times mentioned for the HORSE, Stud , Razz.
Am I right in assuming that they are every 2 hrs like in the Omaha and Holdem?


Pretty much.  Breaks will be slotted in on the day to fit with DTD staffing, but roughly every 2 hours will be about right.

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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #108 on: February 05, 2013, 15:20:44 PM »



Provisional Structures can be viewed here


Trying to cast my mind back, to former 6 max events, but did APAT have antes kick in level 5?

May be mistaken.. As I think I busted before then  ;D

It"s been a busy morning  ;)


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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #109 on: February 05, 2013, 18:16:27 PM »
Well done APAT; this could be the best yet!!

Question regarding the Open event; Do you not think the structure is maybe a little shallow for such a relatively high buy in when compared to other events DTD run.

I appreciate its a late start and there"s a lot to cram in but can this be looked at?
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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #110 on: February 05, 2013, 18:29:31 PM »

Well done APAT; this could be the best yet!!

Question regarding the Open event; Do you not think the structure is maybe a little shallow for such a relatively high buy in when compared to other events DTD run.

I appreciate its a late start and there"s a lot to cram in but can this be looked at?


That"s a provisional structure, just waiting on DTD to confirm that the predicted finish time is about right, or if we can pop a few more levels into it.

Bearing in mind, we will hopefully increase the capacity if there are enough numbers for it.

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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #111 on: February 05, 2013, 20:42:41 PM »
For the ME - I think that"s the usual £75 structure. It"s £100 this time - can we have 20k instead of 15k?

For the Stud games - instead of ante"ing up every hand for the first few levels (when the ante is high in relation to the bring in etc) can we make it so that the button antes every hand, that way then it could go like this (btn ante)-BI-COMP-RAISE:

Level 1: (50) 25-50-100
Level 2: (100) 25-75-150
Level 3: (150) 25-100-200
Level 4: (250) 50-200-400
Level 5: Everybody antes up as on the structure.
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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #112 on: February 05, 2013, 22:14:07 PM »

For the ME - I think that"s the usual £75 structure. It"s £100 this time - can we have 20k instead of 15k?


Agree. The worlds were 5K more than the national events previously to reflect the higher buy in. Just because we"re getting better value in the nationals now, doesn"t mean we don"t want better, better value in the wcoap lol.
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Re: WCOAP 2013 - Official Information Thread
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2013, 06:33:18 AM »
Bumping this to get more opinions on the structures - particularly the Stud games.
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Re: WCOAP 2013 - Official Information Thread
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2013, 08:55:42 AM »
For the Open event I agree that the structure should be better because of the higher buyin.
Not really an opinion for the Stud games as I don"t play them alot...
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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2013, 11:11:46 AM »


For the Stud games - instead of ante"ing up every hand for the first few levels (when the ante is high in relation to the bring in etc) can we make it so that the button antes every hand, that way then it could go like this (btn ante)-BI-COMP-RAISE:

Level 1: (50) 25-50-100
Level 2: (100) 25-75-150
Level 3: (150) 25-100-200
Level 4: (250) 50-200-400
Level 5: Everybody antes up as on the structure.


Technically there is no button in Stud but I understand what you are saying.

I actually agree with this, it makes more sense at the lower levels.
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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2013, 14:14:18 PM »



For the Stud games - instead of ante"ing up every hand for the first few levels (when the ante is high in relation to the bring in etc) can we make it so that the button antes every hand, that way then it could go like this (btn ante)-BI-COMP-RAISE:

Level 1: (50) 25-50-100
Level 2: (100) 25-75-150
Level 3: (150) 25-100-200
Level 4: (250) 50-200-400
Level 5: Everybody antes up as on the structure.


Technically there is no button in Stud but I understand what you are saying.

I actually agree with this, it makes more sense at the lower levels.


I disagree; it"s daft IMO
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Re: WCOAP 2013 - Official Information Thread
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2013, 14:41:49 PM »
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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #118 on: February 11, 2013, 13:06:32 PM »




For the Stud games - instead of ante"ing up every hand for the first few levels (when the ante is high in relation to the bring in etc) can we make it so that the button antes every hand, that way then it could go like this (btn ante)-BI-COMP-RAISE:

Level 1: (50) 25-50-100
Level 2: (100) 25-75-150
Level 3: (150) 25-100-200
Level 4: (250) 50-200-400
Level 5: Everybody antes up as on the structure.


Technically there is no button in Stud but I understand what you are saying.

I actually agree with this, it makes more sense at the lower levels.


I disagree; it"s daft IMO

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Re: WCOAP 2013 Schedule Announcement & Discussion
« Reply #119 on: February 11, 2013, 13:26:03 PM »


If there are concerns about the size of antes compared with bring-ins, just make the stakes higher and the starting stacks larger


Not a bad idea.

How about we leave the antes as per the current structure, double bring in / SB & BB and increase the starting stack to 10K



LEVEL      ANTE      BRING IN      LIMIT      TIME
  1       25      50    100 - 200 30
  2       25      50    150 - 300 30
  3       25      50   200 - 400 30
  4       50      100   300 - 600 30
  5       50      100   400 - 800 30
  6       75      150   600 - 1200 30
  7      100    200   800 - 1600 30
  8      150    300 1200 - 2400 30
  9      200    400 1600 - 3200 30
10       300   600 2000 -4000 30
11       400   800 2400 - 4800 30
12       500    1000 3000 - 6000 30
13       600    1200 4000 - 8000 30
14       800    1600 6000 - 12000 30
15    1000  2000 8000 - 16000 30
16     1500 3000 12000 - 24000 30
17     2000 4000 16000 - 32000       30


Too much?
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