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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2013, 13:35:37 PM »


http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=6986.0

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Loving this idea!! Can"t we pencil it into the WCOAP quickly  ;)

Each winner starting of with 10k starting stack and if you have won two events you get 5k starting stack simples.. ;D ;D

Winner gets a $10,000 WSOPME seat??  ::)


I like this idea. Instead of 15k past winners only get 10k starting stack in the WCOAP ME, as a handicap to give the rest of us a chance. And if you fished 2 titles by some fluke of nature you only get 5k ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2013, 14:56:33 PM »
Well...

Apparently now S7 will kick of with the APAT Masters at the end of May / start of June at Wembley.

Leaving aside the ISPT stuff...I"m now looking at the first "real" APAT (as in Amateur) event of S7 being...what, end of June?

Saving me some "travel" money I suppose but if I"m working things out right and the WCOAP is at DTD in Easter 2014 (mid-April) and is the climax we"re looking at (effectively) a short season for S7.

Yes there are some caveats in there..I"ll have to give this some more consideration and plan something when I"m in Yarm.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2013, 16:07:39 PM »

Well...

Apparently now S7 will kick of with the APAT Masters at the end of May / start of June at Wembley.

Leaving aside the ISPT stuff...I"m now looking at the first "real" APAT (as in Amateur) event of S7 being...what, end of June?

Saving me some "travel" money I suppose but if I"m working things out right and the WCOAP is at DTD in Easter 2014 (mid-April) and is the climax we"re looking at (effectively) a short season for S7.

Yes there are some caveats in there..I"ll have to give this some more consideration and plan something when I"m in Yarm.



Is the WCOAP at DTD in Easter 2014?
Why does this have to be the climax?
It might be a long S7 with the climax being in November.

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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2013, 16:19:35 PM »

Well...

Apparently now S7 will kick of with the APAT Masters at the end of May / start of June at Wembley.

Leaving aside the ISPT stuff...I"m now looking at the first "real" APAT (as in Amateur) event of S7 being...what, end of June?

Saving me some "travel" money I suppose but if I"m working things out right and the WCOAP is at DTD in Easter 2014 (mid-April) and is the climax we"re looking at (effectively) a short season for S7.

Yes there are some caveats in there..I"ll have to give this some more consideration and plan something when I"m in Yarm.



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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2013, 16:37:02 PM »

Well...

Apparently now S7 will kick of with the APAT Masters at the end of May / start of June at Wembley.

Leaving aside the ISPT stuff...I"m now looking at the first "real" APAT (as in Amateur) event of S7 being...what, end of June?

Saving me some "travel" money I suppose but if I"m working things out right and the WCOAP is at DTD in Easter 2014 (mid-April) and is the climax we"re looking at (effectively) a short season for S7.

Yes there are some caveats in there..I"ll have to give this some more consideration and plan something when I"m in Yarm.



Most APAT seasons have ran for longer than a year. I will hazard a guess that the final event of S7 will be the WCOAP and will be in its rightful August slot for 2014.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #80 on: March 01, 2013, 16:55:04 PM »


Is the WCOAP at DTD in Easter 2014?
Why does this have to be the climax?
It might be a long S7 with the climax being in November.


Des has stated that he sees the WCOAP as being the final event of the APAT season and that makes sense to me.

Assuming it"s at DTD, and I have no reason to think it won"t then we"re limited to APAT festivals over Bank Holidays.

That means either August or Easter in practical terms based on my understanding of Bank holidays . On the basis that August would be the ECOAP...the "top" festival (WCOAP) would, logically, be Easter 2014.

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Most APAT seasons have ran for longer than a year. I will hazard a guess that the final event of S7 will be the WCOAP and will be in its rightful August slot for 2014.



Actually, that"s not the case. So far NONE of the seasons" schedules have covered more than 12 months.

S1 - 9/2006 -> 8/2007
S2 - 11/2007 - 11/2008
S3 - 2/2009 -> 1/2010
S4 - 3/2010 - > 1/2011
S5 - 3/2011 -> 1/2012
S6 - 4/2012 -> 4/2013

S7 - 5/2013 -> 4/2014 ??

August 2014 would enable Des to cram in some more "standard" APAT events so I would prefer that.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #81 on: March 01, 2013, 17:01:19 PM »
I prefer to keep an open mind and wait for the announcements.

This thread is supposed to be a discussion and by the nature of that surly we need to consider other options that are not a repeat of the past? I wasn"t trying to speculate on what might be, I was mearly trying to open discussion.

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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2013, 17:16:03 PM »

I prefer to keep an open mind and wait for the announcements.

This thread is supposed to be a discussion and by the nature of that surly we need to consider other options that are not a repeat of the past? I wasn"t trying to speculate on what might be, I was mearly trying to open discussion.


I"m all for waiting for announcements but I like to think that we can influence the decision making process by offering options and opinions.

Anyway, I"m just speculating based on past experience....As I said, I would prefer an August "finish" to the season as I feel that stuffing, say, the S6 schedule into July - April would be a little hectic.

A June/July to August/September is much more to my liking. Heck, take the Forum event out and put it in October as it"s not a "standard" APAT event.

Just grist for t"mill.  ;D

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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #83 on: March 07, 2013, 01:07:30 AM »
I agree with all those that are pushing for an earlier start. All the major UK tours (GUKPT, UKIPT & GPS) all start at midday on both day 1&2, so don"t see why APAT can"t get that.

Also would like to see a total overhaul of the online team stuff. I like the idea of running a live tourney that is based on an online league (bit like the Genting Vegas challenges) with say 4 in a team and points from the online stuff determines stack sizes. It would be fair numbers wise, encourage everyone to keep playing all league long and be a great way of introducing new players to APAT.

Omaha main event I would travel extra for. I"m not a fan of the National team comps really, so I would scrap them, but I know a fair few do like them so on balance probably worth keeping. As for venues, I would like to see nothing north of M62 or South of Luton. Keep it central and more likely to make it. Do think Leeds or Sheffield deserve a visit.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #84 on: March 07, 2013, 18:58:23 PM »

I wouldn"t describe Leeds/Sheffield as central.

Yes I agree should be described as South
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #85 on: March 07, 2013, 19:37:36 PM »


I wouldn"t describe Leeds/Sheffield as central.

Yes I agree should be described as South


I had a girlfriend who lived in Hamilton and a couple of times she told me she was going "down South" for a day with her job. Newcastle was one of them. Carlisle was the other.
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #87 on: March 17, 2013, 01:33:35 AM »
Buy ins - Stay at £75?  Increase?  Decrease?  Side events?
I think the buyins work pretty perfectly.

Festival style three and four day events - good? or too long?
Think is is spot on aswell, gotta remember that 90% of us are working stiffs and any longer would be too much holiday to use, and the better halfs will revolt!

Timing - An event every month, every two months, or four big festivals every year maybe?
Hmmmmm....i like 4 festivals a year, as it gives people time to save but i fear this would mean that the spread of events (ie locations) would be sp****.

WCOAP - Should it extend further with the addition of two day side events and an even larger main event?
Id love to see a larger field in the main, but would prefer an even deeper structure (ie wsop structure over 4 days)

Team events - Should we invite multiple teams from same communities? structure?
Should prob just rename it the GNF cup and be done with it! ;)  Start times need to be earlier than 2:30 though. (same for all events).  Would like to see an online league in which the top 7 win spots in the APAT Forum team for next year.  Whomever wins the event gets captaincy and the ability to pick the wildcard 8th member.  Think this league would get lots of runners, which = rake for the site.  Think its the one team event (ie not the internationals) in which everyone should have equal chance to qualify as normally you appoint a captain and then they pick the team they see fit.

Formats - Should we be looking to include anything new?  Should we run one of the nationals in a different format, outside of the WCOAP and ECOAP?
Bounty event? Shootout event? Bounty Shootout event? Would love to see a 9-6-2 event over 3 days at the festival next year.  Day 1 is played 9 handed. Day 2 is 6 handed down to final 16/8 players.  Final 16/8 are then draw in Heads Up brackets which chips counts carried forward from each day.  May be a logistic nightmare but would be a cool game.

Registration - Thoughts on satellites, direct buy in via client, generic satellite packages versus specific satellite packages, should satellites packages include a contribution towards travel and hotel?
Direct buyin on IPN would be useful, would encourage more to deposit on there and maybe play more.  Sats are fine for seat only, and like the fact you let people use them for what they will.

Seat reservation - Should this continue?  If so, why?  If we added a Paypal button to enable players to pay the 10% fee upfront, would this work?  So players not taking up their reservation would lose the fee element of their buy in?
Hard to say, do you have a lot of issues with players not turning up!?  Think direct buyins on IPN would spot this problem if you closed reg say 2 weeks prior to event.  That way you can still fill empty spots etc.

Locations - Overseas?  New locations?  For example we could take the ECOAP to Western Europe.  Would players come, if destination was cheap and outside of holiday periods?
Europe doesnt work for me (think missus would kill me if i used my holiday at work for poker abraod and not for a summer holiday with her!)

Commercial - To increase our budgets we might ask you to qualify for events at a third party site, or join us for a crazy night of blackjack or slots tournaments.  Is this acceptable, not acceptable, would stop you playing, etc?
Not bothered either way, understand your reason behind it.

Awards - Further develop the medals?  More bracelets?  Differentiate between live and online event awards?  Added value?
Like the medals. Love the WCOAP bracelets.  Added value is always good.  Maybe online POTS could get next years series for free? idk, something to keep it within the community?

Merchandise - Should we sell stuff?  Shirts, cards, chip set, card protectors?  How deep should the range be?  High quality or cheap?  Would you buy high resolution pictures of yourself at events, branded with the event name, APAT logo and in an APAT sleeve?
Id buy the pic if it was the winners photo!  But think Merch is a great idea.  Without being rude, if people are willing to spend money, and APAT can make a margin on it then its worth doing.  Also bodes well for free advertising going forward.  Im sure many would wear there APAT shirts at other events whether it be at local casino or bigger events.
As for cards, chip sets these are brilliant ideas.  If good quality i would buy both for my monthly home game, and would act as a great conversation topic with the players i play with.  Just imagine how many of your members play homegames with non apat"rs.  You could get your brand to hundreds, if not thousands of new faces.



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Would love to see a ladies event at the WCOAP/ECOAP.
Been mentioned before that there is a huge gap, and i think grabbing hold of the market could be really good.
The standard of the ladies game is very solid in the UK scene, and it would encourage people to get the GFs playing, less arguements when you book the time off and a safe environment for new faces to learn with no "stigma" or "pressure"
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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #88 on: March 21, 2013, 15:54:13 PM »
OK..so we know that the ISPT event is No.1 but that"s at the end of frakkin" may and this is getting silly now.

Can we hope for a full schedule immediately after WCOAP for the rest of S7?

Vacation days have to be booked you know!

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Re: Season Seven Discussion
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2013, 18:26:07 PM »

OK..so we know that the ISPT event is No.1 but that"s at the end of frakkin" may and this is getting silly now.

Can we hope for a full schedule immediately after WCOAP for the rest of S7?

Vacation days have to be booked you know!




I don"t think we"ve ever published the following season"s schedule straight after the final event of the current season Paulie, you know that!  :)

We have to use our resource appropriately and we"ve been very focused on WCOAP and some other stuff over the past two months.

That said, we know largely what we want to do and where we want to go, but we"ll need to do some work to sign off the detail.  We"ll target end April to make that announcement, and anything before will be a bonus for us all.

We"re working hard though, you can trust me on that!
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