DTD Grand Prix Day 1a Decision

[Chipaccrual]

I played the Day 1a of the DTD Grand Prix last night, for those that don"t know the structure, they run a number of Day 1"a both online and live with a £60 buyin.  The top 10% carry their chips forward into the live Day 2 this coming Sunday to play out for the £100k guaranteed prizepool.

Last night, 182 runnners started with 20k of chips.  Average stack at the end of the night would be just over 200k.


We"re down to 27 players (18 get through, 19th and 20th get £60 tokens).

I"m sat on 170k and have been playing steady poker.  Not got involved in too many hands, but have picked up chips at the right times.

It"s my BB and two players (UTG 60k & MP 150k) get into a hand with TT v A8 and the shorter stack (UTG) doubles through by spiking an ace on turn.  MP is now down to 90k.

Next hand, my SB, the MP open shoves into the BB he just doubled up.  It fold round to me with   .

Blinds are 2.5k/5k (I think, or very close to that)


What am I doing with the   ?

I have little other info as had moved to the table maybe two orbits before.

[TightEnd]

you are folding in a satellite, and calling/going for the win in a MTT

At best you are a 60-40 shot against most of his range (Any pair, Any Broadway, good Aces, any paint-x) and dominating a minority of his range (Ace-x)

It looks tilty though, so I can understand calling,

but 170k at 2-5k should get you to 18th, 80k at 2-5k when you call-lose is pretty marginal and puts you under pressure

Satellite chip preservation. You only need to finish 18th to go through with near enough average stack.

[DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be)]

It"s possible that he is tilting, but what would you risk your stack for. He could have KT or KQ and that makes you favorite to win of course, but are you really going to risk half your stack at this time?

He could have AQ which leaves you in trouble, or a pair of 8"s or something which would make it a coinflip.

So I would definitely fold in this situation.

[TightEnd]

oh, you just posted the result elsewhere

Oh Indeed.

[DodgyEnd (Tom APAT.be)]

and what did you do?

[ian.ski309]

Not seen the result elsewhere, but I"m insta-folding in these circumstances 100% of the time.

[Chipaccrual]

oh, you just posted the result elsewhere

Oh Indeed.

LOL, it was quite funny watching two of them posting and chatting about it, clearly not knowing I knew who they were.

From your experience Rich, what is a sensible min stack to take into a Day 2 ?

[TightEnd]

From your experience Rich, what is a sensible min stack to take into a Day 2 ?

DAY 2:
- We start at Level 16 of the WSOP main event structure 2500-5000
- Since we play down to 10% on Day 1 and start with 20,000 chips, the average stack will for Day 2 will of course be 200,000 chips
- Some players will have higher than 200k and some lower, but this means a decent average of 40 BB going into Day 2, plenty of play


120,000 and upwards c 25x bb?

If I had less than that in a Day One and intended to have multiple attempts to get to Day Two, I"d be gambling here with AJdd

With 180k and players still to drop, sit tight. In great shape.

[deanp27]

It"s too big a shove to call with AJ imo but AQ is much closer

I suppose it depends what your strat is regarding the number of day 1s you want to play and your target stack but I wouldn"t call in off in a regular mtt and don"t think you should here unless you think he is really wide and would open all his strong hands without shoving

[AMRN]

It"s a fold for me - in this spot, with a reasonably comfortable 34bb, I"m not calling off 14bb with AJ, no matter how tilty the shove might be.

[fandango]

Fold for me all day long.. But then again I"m a nit!!

[AAroddersAA]

What is the payout structure does everybody who makes day two cash and will that cash cover expenses of going to DTD?

[TightEnd]

What is the payout structure does everybody who makes day two cash and will that cash cover expenses of going to DTD?

Yes

For most people, unless they live in Ferndown.

[Mikeyboy9361]

Folding here, for all the reasions everyone has said!

So I take it you called, BB shoved , you were priced in so called and trebled up  

[WYoung83]

Me personally i would probably fold right now. But i actually think re-shoving would be a better play because its better  taking a big stack into day 2 and would be worth having a gamble in this spot. (if you can afford to buy in multiple days then this is a fairly easy call i think).