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[pokerpops]

Could I have escaped this?

Low blinds, but the table was reasonably frisky and the pots were good value..

the villain of the piece had been raising with A rag and I"d taken a couple of pots against him earlier when he bet out representing a hand I didn"t think he"d got...

Game #6813417214: Hold'em NL (£0.10/£0.20) - 2008/04/18 - 11:57:26 (UK)
Table "Ann" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: Strutty07 (£5.89 in chips)
Seat 2: Justin033 (£29.14 in chips)
Seat 3: __sp__ (£20.91 in chips)
Seat 4: david3103 (£22.11 in chips)
Seat 5: Balti1112 (£22.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Boz_face (£16.26 in chips)
Strutty07: posts small blind £0.10
Justin033: posts big blind £0.20
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to david3103 [ ]
__sp__: folds
david3103: raises to £0.60
Balti1112: raises to £3
Boz_face: folds
Strutty07: folds
Justin033: folds
david3103: calls £2.40
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
david3103: checks
Balti1112: bets £4
david3103: calls £4
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
david3103: checks
Balti1112: bets £7
david3103: raises to £15.11 and is all-in
Balti1112: is all-in £8.10
Returned uncalled bets £0.01 to david3103
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
david3103: shows [ ] (A Full House, Sevens full of Eights)
Balti1112: shows [ ] (A Full House, Kings full of Eights)
Balti1112 collected £42.28 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £44.50 Main pot £42.28 Rake £2.22
Board [ ]
Seat 1: Strutty07 (small blind) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: Justin033 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: __sp__ folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: david3103 showed [ ] and lost with A Full House, Sevens full of Eights
Seat 5: Balti1112 showed [ ] and won (£42.28) with A Full House, Kings full of Eights
Seat 6: Boz_face (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[tumblet]

Not much you can do about that. Im doing my stack as well.. Just UL..

[Zanshin]

After the flop you were never getting away from this hand.

Pr-flop though it should have been possible.

Had the villain been raising with Ace rag after another raise or only against limpers? Also how much was he raising with his Ace rag hands?

[pokerpops]

My notes have him described as erratic and potentially a maniac... he"d reraise preflop, make a C bet and then check the turn and fold to a small bet on the river. Other times he"d hold on and keep betting to the bitter end with second pair..

I"m thankful our stacks weren"t bigger

[Departed]

Like above - post flop, just unlucky.

Pre flop - depends on the opponent. I assume when he was raising with A rag, these were not reraises.
What did you put him on when he reraised? If you thought that it was hand (like premium pair), that he would never let go of after the flop, then you can just about call pre-flop as to make it profitable you need to be able to win a minimum of 7.5x your call [~ odds of flopping set]

As it"s costing you £2.40 to call, you need to be able to win £18. You have the £3.80 in pot plus his remaining stack of £19, so provided he will nearly always stack off when you hit set, then you can call.

If he is a player that tends to reraise light, then calling out of position is definitely not going to be a good play with a hand like 77. You would need to either fold or reraise.

EDIT: Just saw your post saying he reraises a lot. Personally, I"d probably fold a hand like 77 OOP then unless I was confident he would fold 10j type hands to a 4-bet: possibly could make it about £6.50 and can then get out hand if he shoves over top.

[kinboshi]

Pre-flop, good call.  If you know he probably has a big hand, and if he has a decent stack (he does in this case) you have the implied odds to set mine. 

Once you"ve hit your set, all your chips are going in regardless.

[mal666]

PokerStars Game #16964975162: Tournament #85846764, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2008/04/24 - 16:16:55 (ET)
Table "85846764 31" 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pontebianco (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: goldsitisch (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: mal666 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: grafhsv (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: TGULIAS (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: stonehert (1500 in chips)
goldsitisch: posts small blind 10
mal666: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mal666 [ ]
grafhsv: folds
TGULIAS has timed out while being disconnected
TGULIAS: folds
TGULIAS is sitting out
stonehert: raises 20 to 40
pontebianco: folds
goldsitisch: raises 1460 to 1500 and is all-in
mal666: calls 1480 and is all-in
stonehert: folds
*** FLOP *** [ qh  kc ]
TGULIAS has returned
*** TURN *** [ qh kc7d] []
*** RIVER *** [ qh kc ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
goldsitisch: shows [ Tc] (a straight, Nine to King)
mal666: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Kings)
goldsitisch collected 3040 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3040 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 2: goldsitisch (small blind) showed [ Tc] and won (3040) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 3: mal666 (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with three of a kind, Kings

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