Interesting Spot on Stars

[GiMac]

ok we are sitting 7/95/500 in a game on Stars, av is about 15k and we are on a table which has a lot of chips. Then this happens, what do you do?

PokerStars Hand #96919428502: Tournament #714720762, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (150/300) - 2013/04/09 20:26:23 WET [2013/04/09 15:26:23 ET]
Table "714720762 63" 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: lepsOnn (9735 in chips)
Seat 2: Esil Diuran (26636 in chips)
Seat 3: GiMac (29787 in chips)
Seat 4: Cissoco (13407 in chips)
Seat 5: ederpalasson (5951 in chips)
Seat 6: Zocker076 (25649 in chips)
lepsOnn: posts the ante 40
Esil Diuran: posts the ante 40
GiMac: posts the ante 40
Cissoco: posts the ante 40
ederpalasson: posts the ante 40
Zocker076: posts the ante 40
lepsOnn: posts small blind 150
Esil Diuran: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GiMac [ ]
GiMac: raises 487 to 787
Cissoco: calls 787
ederpalasson: folds
Zocker076: folds
lepsOnn: calls 637
Esil Diuran: raises 25809 to 26596 and is all-in



Call or fold?

[deanp27]

i probably call it off

however i made a similar call last week with queens when UTG just open jammed 50 bigs pre unopened with aces, so we all get outplayed occasionally

[pokerpops]

Stick in 100BB at this stage of the comp?

What do we know about villain?

[GiMac]

Stick in 100BB at this stage of the comp?

What do we know about villain?

Not any more aggro than anyone else in a 6-max. Been raising in position, seems fairly competent, hasn"t made any moves out of the ordinary.

[jayteejack]

all of it and the penguin; i"d put him on AK at best; kk or aa maybe he three bets..........
or its a move to make u think that. fek it call any way

[AMRN]

Not sure I would call off 100bb at this stage.... KK definitely, JJ never....  but QQ? sigh, call. fold. call. fold. oh **** it. Coin?

[s4ooter]

You say you feel he is competant?

If so call.....worst case is AK, he never has AA/KK in that spot.

vs an unknown, i dont mind folding as your stack is too good to throw around willy nilly.

Quick Question, if he squeezes do you flat or 4bet it in his eye?? if you do the latter, i see no reason not to get it in here

[GiMac]

You say you feel he is competant?

If so call.....worst case is AK, he never has AA/KK in that spot.

vs an unknown, i dont mind folding as your stack is too good to throw around willy nilly.

Quick Question, if he squeezes do you flat or 4bet it in his eye?? if you do the latter, i see no reason not to get it in here

What I mean by that is that he hasn"t shown any propensity to do anything crazy, like shove 100xBB on a squeeze play, he hasn"t been particularly aggro, altho has raised every button or SB when folded to him, but I look at that as standard competent play. If he squeezes yes i 4bet,but I aint 4bet shoving 100xBB either, so when it gets back to him and he shoves I am in exact same spot.

[s4ooter]

What i am tryin to get at is: "is he bad enough to jam AA/KK for that many bbs?!"

I call it off here as i would "think" a good player wouldnt squeeze that many bbs with AA/KK as he would understand its awful.

Wouldnt suprise me to see him flip 55-JJ, seems to be the norm on sub $22 games on stars.....

If we are flipping, then *HOLD*

[Swinebag]

Depends on how I am accumulating chips.

If there are loads of "spots" then I struggle to call off here, even though it is probably the best thing to do.

[AMRN]

What i am tryin to get at is: "is he bad enough to jam AA/KK for that many bbs?!"

I call it off here as i would "think" a good player wouldnt squeeze that many bbs with AA/KK as he would understand its awful.

Wouldnt suprise me to see him flip 55-JJ, seems to be the norm on sub $22 games on stars.....

If we are flipping, then *HOLD*

imo it"s almost nailed on to be AK.....  and I still fold as I just don"t want to call ~100x for a flip

[GiMac]

What i am tryin to get at is: "is he bad enough to jam AA/KK for that many bbs?!"

I call it off here as i would "think" a good player wouldnt squeeze that many bbs with AA/KK as he would understand its awful.

Wouldnt suprise me to see him flip 55-JJ, seems to be the norm on sub $22 games on stars.....

If we are flipping, then *HOLD*

imo it"s almost nailed on to be AK.....  and I still fold as I just don"t want to call ~100x for a flip

Tbh this was my thinking & I figured I was racing at best. I was owning the table as it was and i didn"t need to flip for a 200 BB pot. So i folded figuring that I would find better spots.

This is how hand played out for those interested.

GiMac: folds
Cissoco: calls 12580 and is all-in
lepsOnn: folds
Uncalled bet (13229) returned to Esil Diuran
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Esil Diuran: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
Cissoco: shows [ ] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Cissoco collected 28548 from pot
GiMac said, "lol thank you   QQ"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28548 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: lepsOnn (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Esil Diuran (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 3: GiMac folded before Flop
Seat 4: Cissoco showed [ ] and won (28548) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 5: ederpalasson folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 6: Zocker076 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)