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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2013, 21:44:26 PM »


Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Cool,

Cant wait for the venues/dates for this!!
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2013, 22:13:08 PM »
Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?

Confirm/Deny?

Oh and if/so, where do i reserve my seat?
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #137 on: June 17, 2013, 22:27:42 PM »

Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?



Where"d you see that??

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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2013, 22:29:18 PM »

Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?

Confirm/Deny?

Oh and if/so, where do i reserve my seat?


Confirmed

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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #139 on: June 17, 2013, 22:32:01 PM »


Just seen that Friday night in cov is the 1st Cash Tour event?



Where"d you see that??



On the calender.....

Shizzle....need to find another £200 from somewhere!!
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #140 on: June 18, 2013, 10:44:44 AM »
Lovely line up as always guys. Need to get the poker planner and bank statement out to see what I can make! lol ;)

See you all at some point over the season.  ;D
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #141 on: June 18, 2013, 12:38:05 PM »
Epic schedule...hope to make as many of these as I can.

Anyone from Scotland/North heading down to Coventry?
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #142 on: June 19, 2013, 11:21:49 AM »


Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Ah thats a shame, i think the option should def be giving once the last hand has been played in the 1st phase to avoid what dann is worried about. But to allow the reload to be taken at any point totally shifts the dynamic of what made the event so good (giving it its slightly tournament like feel)
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #143 on: June 19, 2013, 12:31:56 PM »



Rules at Worlds were you can only take the 2nd bullet once bust tho?  So will players be able to "add" £100 whenever they want this time round?


Yes, we"ll break the second bullet into two chunks and they (optional) will have to be taken before the first phase ends.  Taking them will not be subject to losing your starting stack.


Ah thats a shame, i think the option should def be giving once the last hand has been played in the 1st phase to avoid what dann is worried about. But to allow the reload to be taken at any point totally shifts the dynamic of what made the event so good (giving it its slightly tournament like feel)


Agree - rather than being a £100 buy in with a £100 safety net rebuy option, this will just become a £200 buy in for many, and will give those with deeper pockets an early advantage.

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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #144 on: June 19, 2013, 12:39:29 PM »
Partially solved by saying you can only add-on one of the chunks of £50 when your stack is £75 or lower.

If you have to bust before reloading, losing an early pot can restrict you somewhat.
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #145 on: June 19, 2013, 12:45:05 PM »
Could it not just be changed that instead of the top 8 stacks go through to the FT, the top 8 profitable players take their stacks through.

That means you keep the reload rules as it is, but if you have taken a second bullet, you are penalised £100 when calculating the final table positions.

This doesn"t then advantage the deeper pocketed players as Steve has suggested, but also solves the issues that were raised from the DTD event.

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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #146 on: June 19, 2013, 12:58:04 PM »

Could it not just be changed that instead of the top 8 stacks go through to the FT, the top 8 profitable players take their stacks through.

That means you keep the reload rules as it is, but if you have taken a second bullet, you are penalised £100 when calculating the final table positions.

This doesn"t then advantage the deeper pocketed players as Steve has suggested, but also solves the issues that were raised from the DTD event.


I think Des hinted that earlier - entirely correct ofc for Profit > Stack.

If you can only reload when you"ve bust, then any shorter stacked players are going to be disadvantaged - what"s the point of sitting there with a £50 stack with half an hour left even if you have your reload behind for example?
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #147 on: June 19, 2013, 13:02:58 PM »
I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.

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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #148 on: June 19, 2013, 13:10:00 PM »

I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.

No it should be the 8 biggest stack in play surely

The idea is to create a deep stacked cash game as I understand it. To do that you need the biggest stacks in play. Just give everybody the option to add on their unused rebuys at the end and its the same thing anyway. I like the idea of 4 top-ups btw.
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Re: APAT Season Seven Announcement
« Reply #149 on: June 19, 2013, 13:19:49 PM »

I would prefer to see the rebuy broken into four optional £25 chunks. These should then be considered "top ups" rather than "rebuys", and a top up (or multiple top ups) can be used at any time so long as topping up your stack does not take it over the max sit down of £100 (standard for any cash table with a max buy in).

This would take away any disadvantage of losing an early pot, and would allow players to keep stacks topped off at £100 (until they run out of top ups)


Agree that the final table should be based on the 8 most profitable players rather than the 8 biggest stacks in play.


Yeah, that"s also fine (I"d actually prefer that). As long as it"s some form of resticted top-up then it keeps everyone in play.
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