APAT UK Team Championship

[APAT]

A team could choose to award equal prize money to each of its ten members.

A team may equally split prize money between its points scorers (top 50 finishers).

A team may split prize money as a percentage of individual points scores - where a player winning the event will receive a great deal more than a player finishing 50th, but in the same team.

There are other variations on splitting any prize money won, but we will leave this to individual teams to decide via their captains.

[APAT]

The only stipulation being that any amends to the payout structure will need to be posted by the captains in the captains thread in advance of the event starting.

If there are no specific instructions, the standard payout structure will see each team member receiving an equal share of prize money.

[Paulie_D]

The top three teams will be paid all of the prize money.  Now there are several ways that teams may choose to split prize money received, see next post for some examples.

Ohhh...didn"t realise that. Sorry for spreading confusion.

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[craigdunn]

I think this is not a great idea to remove the individual prize. I mean for example, what if one player in the team gets really deep, but the rest bust out early?? That player then has nothing left to play for and it will ruin the spirit of the game IMO, they may as well just dump their chips off

For those against a team-split on winnings, why not place a bet on yourself to add some more personal value to the tournament?

I"m placing £50 e/w on myself at 125/1, this should mean I"ll get about £750 if I make final table (1/8th odds for top 9) and a nice £7k pay day if I come in 1st - this means that in the above scenario I"d still have quite a bit left to play for.

Just a thought

[kinboshi]

I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others.  If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.

[Jon MW]

I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others.  If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.

But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway.  

[craigdunn]

You could say the same about any poker tournament that has a book running on it - but it does give one an incentive to carry on as an individual even if the team is in disarray.

[kinboshi]

I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others.  If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.

But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway. 

Not if if you were playing and I backed you.

[Jon MW]

I thought about backing myself on BlueSQ - but it means that some players will be playing for more than others.  If I"m 66/1 (8/1 to final), and you"re 125/1 (16/1 to final) then I"d be better off backing you or other players who are at 125/1.

But in terms of the likelihood of actually reaching the final table, you"d be better off backing them anyway. 

Not if if you were playing and I backed you.

I took into account that I wasn"t playing.

Although I did forget that Bainn was, so I do have to amend that to anybody else playing (apart from Bainn).  

[MAIR]

If I was at the final table, and our team had lost out out of qualifying for one of the 3 forum prizes, I would be going all out to take that 1st place down, I would not give up just because there was no prize money involved.

I will be, as Craigdunn suggested above, placing individual bets, that way I have a further opportunity of winning some dosh.

At the end of the day, to be able to play as part of the RTR Forum Team, win or lose, an opportunity to try and win an APAT event, and be a part of one of the best tournament structures and friendliest environments for playing poker, I am happy with whatever way that the prize money is split.

I am looking forward to a very enjoyable weekend of poker and friends, old and hopefully new.

[APAT]

We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings.  We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.

[Jon MW]

When Des points out the wording then it"s obvious.

But I can understand why some people might have read it as meaning that the forum prize payouts were all added value as well as the first prize seat.

I don"t think anybody can argue that it"s a great tournament to be involved with, but only that, however clear it was, it wasn"t clear enough that there were no individual prizes.

It just emphasises the need to really point out any terms and conditions however well you think you"ve worded an explanation.


Overall I don"t think it"s that big a deal though is it?

EDIT: Especially if it can now be amended to give some of the prizepool out as individual winnings.

[kinboshi]

We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings.  We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.

Nice one Des. 

One of the great points of APAT is how it"s there for the members and "it" (i.e. Des and Rich) listen to people"s thoughts and opinions.

[APAT]

We are working up an option whereby a percentage of the prize fund will go towards individual placings.  We"ll see how that looks before the player briefing gets published.

Nice one Des. 

One of the great points of APAT is how it"s there for the members and "it" (i.e. Des and Rich) listen to people"s thoughts and opinions.

Correct.

[APAT]

In light of player feedback APAT are proposing the following payout structure for the UK Team Championship.

If any teams would prefer to revert back to a solely team orientated payout structure, then please post here via your captain, before close on Friday, for further discussion.

Payout Structure:-

Total Prizemoney:  £10,000

Team Prize Allocation:  £5,000

£2,500 - 1st Team & Team Cup & £1,000 to Team Owner
£1,500 - 2nd Team
£1,000 - 3rd Team

We would propose that this money is split equally amongst team members.

Individual Prize Allocation:  £5,000

£1,250 - 1st & Gold Medal & GUKPT Package worth $3,000
£750 - 2nd & Silver Medal.
£500 - 3rd & Bronze Medal.
£250 - 4th to 9th.
£100 - 10th to 19th.