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[Fatcatstu]

Please stop with the football analogies. Why can there never be a discussion about poker on this forum without people suggesting what would happen in a slightly similar, but totally irrelevant, situation in football?

Please discuss the merits of your argument in the context of poker, not bloody football.

Rodders is scared of playing me heads up.

Will that do?

[AAroddersAA]

Please stop with the football analogies. Why can there never be a discussion about poker on this forum without people suggesting what would happen in a slightly similar, but totally irrelevant, situation in football?

Please discuss the merits of your argument in the context of poker, not bloody football.

The analogy is totally accurate and relevant, it is not even remotely close to being irrelevant (that is obvious), it is referring to the different skill sets that people have, if you want I can explain it in terms of Six Sigma Lean (and I can even tell you all the merits of setting up a skills matrix and how changes in your business will affect this and how to use this to select the right person for a task/project) but that would be boring to most people unlike football - MOST PEOPLE BEFORE ANYBODY RESPONDS SAYING THEY FIND FOOTBALL BORING. There is no analogy that can be drawn from poker, that I know of but I don"t watch poker (it"s boring) so maybe there is.

In addition to that, debate works best when using analogy"s others would understand and most people do follow football. I won"t explain the point again as I am entirely sure my original post explained it so that everybody understood what I meant which is why the analogy was a good one.

Thank you.

Please stop with the football analogies. Why can there never be a discussion about poker on this forum without people suggesting what would happen in a slightly similar, but totally irrelevant, situation in football?

Please discuss the merits of your argument in the context of poker, not bloody football.

Rodders is scared of playing me heads up.

Will that do?

I will do if that is what the rules state has to happen but would not select myself to do so.

[MarkTheShark]

Well then its simple.

Thats what the rules state.

[Fatcatstu]

Please stop with the football analogies. Why can there never be a discussion about poker on this forum without people suggesting what would happen in a slightly similar, but totally irrelevant, situation in football?

Please discuss the merits of your argument in the context of poker, not bloody football.

Rodders is scared of playing me heads up.

Will that do?

FWIW I wouldnt be picking me to play a heads up sudden death match either!!!! But, looks like thems the rules taht have been decided on, so thats what we have to work with :p

[AAroddersAA]

Please stop with the football analogies. Why can there never be a discussion about poker on this forum without people suggesting what would happen in a slightly similar, but totally irrelevant, situation in football?

Please discuss the merits of your argument in the context of poker, not bloody football.

Rodders is scared of playing me heads up.

Will that do?

FWIW I wouldnt be picking me to play a heads up sudden death match either!!!! But, looks like thems the rules taht have been decided on, so thats what we have to work with :p

well, let"s hope we come first and second and the heads up ends up 2-2 then just for the sheer fun of the situation. It actually would be awesome.

Actually Carl Vs Warren would be something to see as well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Swinebag]

What if a team has a non-playing captain?

Just asking

[amcgrath1uk]

Or, like in the worlds, I was the one asking ( if the HU was to be played 1/2 at a time), that I wanted to be the 5th player... some people like it, some don"t....

[s4ooter]

Agree that captains should be allowed to nominate.
A captains role is to be the right thing for his team and make decisions that benefit the team.
Also that captain may have had a bad weekend at the tables, may not feel well, may have a HU specialist in there team etc.

A captains job is to get the best from his team and make the right decisions to benefit the team. Not to do everything for the team.

Doesn"t matter to us though as we will crush the HU 3-0.......just gotta worry about getting to the HU 1st lol

[MintTrav]

Curious fact: Ireland and Wales have won most of the team events - yet neither has ever taken part in a Heads-Up play-off.

[fandango]

Been some very good responses here in context to a drawn rubber in the HU..

As a captain I would relish the chance to secure victory for my team.

Rob also has a valid point.. What if say Scotland are drawing 2-2 HU? Gordon being a non playing skip??

I will go with what rules are put in place..

BUT....

I agree 100% with Rodders, it should be captains pick!!

I would pick my team member who has scored the most points for the team, unless he would prefer to stand down and let another player take the place.. As a captain it is my job to ensure the team perform to the best of their abilities and any edge in getting the win is of upmost importance.. If I had a player who had scored consistently high and was a HU specialist I would pick them every time..

[Paulie_D]

Curious fact: Ireland and Wales have won most of the team events - yet neither has ever taken part in a Heads-Up play-off.

I think the HU element was only introduced after those wins.

Stoke for one...and I recall another at DTD (I think).

[Des]

Have to add my tuppence here also.

In my humble opinion it has to be the captain"s choice. 

APAT have no say in the strategy captain"s employ in selecting their team, or assigning specific players to specific tables throughout the event.  Similarly, I don"t believe we should have any say in whether a captain would pick himself or a team mate to play a deciding heads up match. 

What the captain must always take is responsibility for making the decision as to who would play in a final heads up scenario, which I guess is no less important than playing the decider itself.

[fandango]

Have to add my tuppence here also.

In my humble opinion it has to be the captain"s choice. 

APAT have no say in the strategy captain"s employ in selecting their team, or assigning specific players to specific tables throughout the event.  Similarly, I don"t believe we should have any say in whether a captain would pick himself or a team mate to play a deciding heads up match. 

What the captain must always take is responsibility for making the decision as to who would play in a final heads up scenario, which I guess is no less important than playing the decider itself.

+1

Basically what I meant to say aswell as Rodders, but obv put into better grammar..

[AAroddersAA]

OK, I am now confused *lol* it happens often don"t worry.

Is it Captain Vs Captain or Captains choice. I was looking forward to getting crushed by Warren you know.

[SirPercival]

Steve, could you please explain what "six sigma lean" is.

I am aware of " six sigma" and "lean" and have even heard of the modern "lean six sigma" but "six sigma lean" is new on me.