Grand Prix Day 1 Hand

[mporter123]

Live in the club, we have 13,300 at 200/400 (50), in the BB with AKo.

SIX limpers to our big blind, started by UTG, joined by UTG +1, MP, cut off, button and SB. Plenty of limping in previous hands so no shock.

We?

[AMRN]

33bbs, or M of 12.7.......  Make a comment about limper"s tax, shove, hope to get called by a numpty with AQ or a medium pair - bink the K, and treble up.


Would hate to raise to say 3.5k, get a caller, then have to play a bloated pot out of position.

[Fatcatstu]

Pick one of their eyes and stick straight in there.

[MintTrav]

We add 3k to our stack.

Or we get called by someone with AT or 66, who thinks we"re at it, and we head for Nandos.

[Charlie44]

If you think you have a massive edge playing post-flop against these guys then you may want to play small pots until you have big hand. So not entirely adverse to limping (shouts of derision I know!!) . Otherwise if you are going to raise its a shove for me and either increase your stack 25% uncontested or almost certainly have good equity against any caller(s).

[hi_am_chris]

Never ever ever limping, although it feels a lot to jam , folding isn"t happening and raising putting in a quarter of ur chips  oop feels bad too. We add 25 percent to our stack if we shove and they fold so that seems the best choice? ...so basically what john and Steve said

[AAroddersAA]

I just can"t see how you can not shove here. I assume we are 9 handed?

25% to be added to our stack. Whilst it is not impossible that somebody has limped in EP with either AA or KK you will get called by a hand like AQ or AJ more often in live poker. You will also get a few calls from pairs where you are flipping. All that being said a LOT of the time everybody will fold. I don"t need to post any more on this one.

Doing ANYTHING other than shoving must be a massive mistake here.

[Fatcatstu]

If i ever ever ever ever ever EVER limp here feel free to boot me in the balls.

Shove. Every time. Not even slightly close. At all.

[Swinebag]

don"t like shoving here. I don"t think we make enough and we pretty much play face up. (though that probably isn"t a problem in this tourney)

with 6 limpers i would make it 3.25K. With 1 caller I"m getting it in on most to all flops. with 2+ callers you can c/f and still have a playable stack. seems a bit spewy to do this but it still seems the most low risk way to win a bigger pot

[AAroddersAA]

don"t like shoving here. I don"t think we make enough and we pretty much play face up. (though that probably isn"t a problem in this tourney)

with 6 limpers i would make it 3.25K. With 1 caller I"m getting it in on most to all flops. with 2+ callers you can c/f and still have a playable stack. seems a bit spewy to do this but it still seems the most low risk way to win a bigger pot

We either add 25% to our stack or end up getting it in good, or racing. If we raise and hit we usually get no action on an ace high or king high flop. Shoving is surely the most low risk way to win the most chip long term as we get it through so often (unless live poker has become even more spewy then I remember - in which case shove for value)

[mporter123]

Its 10 handed.

don"t like shoving here. I don"t think we make enough and we pretty much play face up. (though that probably isn"t a problem in this tourney)

with 6 limpers i would make it 3.25K. With 1 caller I"m getting it in on most to all flops. with 2+ callers you can c/f and still have a playable stack. seems a bit spewy to do this but it still seems the most low risk way to win a bigger pot

Interesting Rob, out of interest are you raise folding pre?

[deanp27]

it really depends on how the initial limpers have been playing. Not super keen on a shove but if you are not sure what to do it is probably a viable option

[ian.ski309]

We start the hand with 33 BBs but there"s no info in the OP about the other stacks sizes. Do any of the limpers have a giant stack or do they mainly have similar to you or short stacks ?

[mporter123]

Lots of similar stacks, a couple of biggies, nothing less than 20bigs.

The UTG limper has limped weak before but has also raised UTG before, fair to say he has been mixing it up. Ditto for the others, have seen one of the other guys over limp QQ previously but has limped junk too.

I wasn"t that keen on the shove either, felt like too much. Obv never checking my option but raise and play a pot out of position doesn"t sound like fun, would be surprised if I didnt get a caller. Raise folding 1/3 of my stack seems weird too, was really unsure.

[Sillbags]

I"m shoving here every time. It plays so much easier that way and as rodders says you add 25% to your stack. What happens if you make it 3.25k like rob suggests and get peeled by one of the limpers? You will have about a pot size bet left oop when you are likely to have missed the flop, how do you proceed? I know 33bb seems like an overbet pre, but imagine if it had been opened to 1200 with one caller, there would be the same in the pot and I would be shoving over that. It"s the best play in my opinion.