Author Topic: I didn't take my seat for start of a tournament- what should happen to my chips?  (Read 18257 times)

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Keep it simple

You buy-in, your chips in play, whats the problem  ;)  

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 If they have paid their money, then chips should be on the table and just blinded out fully. simple as that. Really cant believe some of the comments here.
 And if one person is missing, and you feel its changing the table dynamics, then so what?  Its just another random event in a mass of randomness of a poker mtt, just like seat draws etc.

If you draw a really tough starting table you wouldnt run to the TD and say that good players are changing the table dynamics would you.

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If they have paid their money, then chips should be on the table and just blinded out fully. simple as that. Really cant believe some of the comments here.
 And if one person is missing, and you feel its changing the table dynamics, then so what?  Its just another random event in a mass of randomness of a poker mtt, just like seat draws etc.

If you draw a really tough starting table you wouldnt run to the TD and say that good players are changing the table dynamics would you.


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If you draw a really tough starting table you wouldnt run to the TD and say that good players are changing the table dynamics would you.


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In my view, chips go on the table, blinds removed as normal. Don"t agree with taking them off at any time. As far as "table dynamics stuff" I"ve read here, its totally irrelevant, missing player could turn up, play a hand then leave and that"s not against any rule.  Players simply have to adjust to the away player, the advantage it gives certain seat positions is just part of tournament poker.

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1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.


Come on Gordon this is ridiculous. There"s so much wrong with it that it isn"t worth the time.



Why? I have done this at both GUKPT and GPS, lol. Please take the time to give me your reasons rather than just dismissing it. If it"s good enough for 2 of the biggest UK tours why not here? ::)

p.s. thinking about it I would remove the refund option to be fair and just enter their chips at the end of the late reg if they have not arrived and then just blind them out as per #2.
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Ok I think there are 2 differen scenarios to look a here.

1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.

2. Player does not arrive or do not advise cardroom that they will be late prior to start of yhe tournament. In this scenario the players chips should be in play and blinded out fully. At the end of the day the player has paid for the chips and they always have value whilst they are in the tournament. Who is to say that the player can"t turn up 3 hours late? He could have half start stack and still easily go on to win the tournament. In short the player has paid his money and therefore "owns" his equity in the tournament. The argument about creating a dynamic is moot, as poker players we should be able to adapt to different situations and this is just another situation.


#1 is a totally unrealistic, but #2 is spot on



Why is #1 unrealistic? I have done this at both GUKPT and GPS, lol.

p.s. thinking about it I would remove the refund option to be fair and just enter their chips at the end of the late reg if they have not arrived and then just blind them out as per #2.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2013, 02:04:36 AM by GiMac »

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Ok I think there are 2 differen scenarios to look a here.

1. Player is running late and contacts cardroom to advise them prior to the start of the tournament. IMO the chips should not be put into play until the player arrives, so long as this is before the end of the late registration/re-entry/alternate period. If the player does not arrive by end of late reg period a full refund should be made.

2. Player does not arrive or do not advise cardroom that they will be late prior to start of yhe tournament. In this scenario the players chips should be in play and blinded out fully. At the end of the day the player has paid for the chips and they always have value whilst they are in the tournament. Who is to say that the player can"t turn up 3 hours late? He could have half start stack and still easily go on to win the tournament. In short the player has paid his money and therefore "owns" his equity in the tournament. The argument about creating a dynamic is moot, as poker players we should be able to adapt to different situations and this is just another situation.


#1 is a totally unrealistic, but #2 is spot on



Why is #1 unrealistic? I have done this at both GUKPT and GPS, lol.

p.s. thinking about it I would remove the refund option to be fair and just enter their chips at the end of the late reg if they have not arrived and then just blind them out as per #2.


#1 is fair enough, as long as the seat is paid for and the tournament isn"t at capacity. Chips should go in play at the point where the "running late" player would be taking the last available seat.
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Yesterday I played Day 1a of a two day tournament. On the table was a stack which was blinded away completely to nothing.
Today the no show player will turn up to play Day1b because he has made a mistake of thinking that he is on today"s list.
His friend was trying to contact him all night but was unable to.
His seat which he won was worth £220, should the casino compensate him in some way?
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Yesterday I played Day 1a of a two day tournament. On the table was a stack which was blinded away completely to nothing.
Today the no show player will turn up to play Day1b because he has made a mistake of thinking that he is on today"s list.
His friend was trying to contact him all night but was unable to.
His seat which he won was worth £220, should the casino compensate him in some way?



Not in my opinion Craig.  The player needs to take responsibility for his mistake.
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Yesterday I played Day 1a of a two day tournament. On the table was a stack which was blinded away completely to nothing.
Today the no show player will turn up to play Day1b because he has made a mistake of thinking that he is on today"s list.
His friend was trying to contact him all night but was unable to.
His seat which he won was worth £220, should the casino compensate him in some way?



Not in my opinion Craig.  The player needs to take responsibility for his mistake.


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