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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #240 on: October 26, 2016, 14:23:17 PM »
Not blogged for over two years and not blogging today, but will try in the future  :)

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #241 on: October 26, 2016, 14:42:24 PM »

Not blogged for over two years and not blogging today, but will try in the future  :)


Good. Look forward to it.

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #242 on: November 06, 2016, 11:09:10 AM »
Played at the local casino in Leeds yesterday, it"s a £50 comp with a good structure and clock. Now I haven"t played much this year so don"t know what the current trends are (raise 2 bigs or 3 bigs etc). Now I may be a nit but help me understand this. Starting with 25K chips first level 50/100, first raise 700 followed by 4 callers, eventually gets to shown down with 2 in the pot one shows K4 the other shows 97 for a 15K pot (ish) very first hand. This could have been a one of trying to be the table captain but no this goes on throughout the first level, seems that the trend in Leeds is to bet anything from 7 to 10 big blinds followed by 4 or 5 callers. It"s not a re-buy comp but you can re-enter once. Into level 2 75/150 and the mayhem just keeps on going still betting 7/8 bigs and getting calls. Level 3 and 4 just the same not with big hands (AA v KK ect) but with A7, K9, 64 (because they are suited) .  Before anyone says it, this should be good for a player like me just to wait and then play my big hands but if the big hands never come you have to make a stand at some point.

Level 4 I decided to join in (I could have just keep on folding but no guarantee that I would get a hand). In the small blind J9, as norm someone raises, 3 or 4 callers so with those odds I call, J high board so I put out a pot sized bet. Gets 1 caller the only other player on the table that seems to be playing a ABC game (He asked what I had behind). K on the turn, I should have continued but made a mistake and checked, so did he. Rag on the river, I have no idea where I"m at. Is 2nd pair good? If I had bet the turn I think I would have known wear I was. So I check, he puts out a sizable bet, which was 3/4 of my stack. So the decision I had did he hit the K or hit a set or did he pick up that I was a nit and missed the K so was putting me to the test. I folded, if had been any of the other lose players I would have called, but was the only person that when it went to a show down, was playing premium hands. A few more hands came and went with me calling and folding (not one of my best games). Big blind call again with K 10, 3 spades came down (I had the K spades). He bets, I just have enough to make him lay down so I ship it, he ponders for a while the makes the call with 2 pair. Not with say Ak or KQ or JQ no no no, but he was playing 9 4. He called a bet (pre flop) with 9 4 and hit two pair. No spade on the turn or river and I"m out.

What I learnt from this game is don"t play a way that you are not comfortable with. I knew I was making mistakes but still made them.                                     

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #243 on: November 06, 2016, 18:27:22 PM »

Played at the local casino in Leeds yesterday, it"s a £50 comp with a good structure and clock. Now I haven"t played much this year so don"t know what the current trends are (raise 2 bigs or 3 bigs etc). Now I may be a nit but help me understand this. Starting with 25K chips first level 50/100, first raise 700 followed by 4 callers, eventually gets to shown down with 2 in the pot one shows K4 the other shows 97 for a 15K pot (ish) very first hand. This could have been a one of trying to be the table captain but no this goes on throughout the first level, seems that the trend in Leeds is to bet anything from 7 to 10 big blinds followed by 4 or 5 callers. It"s not a re-buy comp but you can re-enter once. Into level 2 75/150 and the mayhem just keeps on going still betting 7/8 bigs and getting calls. Level 3 and 4 just the same not with big hands (AA v KK ect) but with A7, K9, 64 (because they are suited) .  Before anyone says it, this should be good for a player like me just to wait and then play my big hands but if the big hands never come you have to make a stand at some point.

Level 4 I decided to join in (I could have just keep on folding but no guarantee that I would get a hand). In the small blind J9, as norm someone raises, 3 or 4 callers so with those odds I call, J high board so I put out a pot sized bet. Gets 1 caller the only other player on the table that seems to be playing a ABC game (He asked what I had behind). K on the turn, I should have continued but made a mistake and checked, so did he. Rag on the river, I have no idea where I"m at. Is 2nd pair good? If I had bet the turn I think I would have known wear I was. So I check, he puts out a sizable bet, which was 3/4 of my stack. So the decision I had did he hit the K or hit a set or did he pick up that I was a nit and missed the K so was putting me to the test. I folded, if had been any of the other lose players I would have called, but was the only person that when it went to a show down, was playing premium hands. A few more hands came and went with me calling and folding (not one of my best games). Big blind call again with K 10, 3 spades came down (I had the K spades). He bets, I just have enough to make him lay down so I ship it, he ponders for a while the makes the call with 2 pair. Not with say Ak or KQ or JQ no no no, but he was playing 9 4. He called a bet (pre flop) with 9 4 and hit two pair. No spade on the turn or river and I"m out.

What I learnt from this game is don"t play a way that you are not comfortable with. I knew I was making mistakes but still made them.                                     



It"s very much the way it is these days.
My take is here
http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php/topic,10564.msg251496.html#msg251496


Cliffs
Re-entry is one culprit, £50 buy in and a short clock is another IMHO
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #244 on: November 06, 2016, 20:52:34 PM »
If I keep on playing this game I"m going to have to change my mind set and ether, if you can"t beat them join them or don"t play from the start and buy in at the end of late registration when things settle down

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #245 on: November 09, 2016, 10:37:20 AM »
It"s Razz night

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #246 on: November 09, 2016, 14:36:52 PM »

If I keep on playing this game I"m going to have to change my mind set and ether, if you can"t beat them join them or don"t play from the start and buy in at the end of late registration when things settle down


Sitting through games like this I suspect is extremely confusing and frustrating if you don"t play so much... I"d be inclinded to continue with what I know is right, but play more, and should hopefully come good in the long run.... gl mate
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #247 on: November 09, 2016, 15:02:36 PM »
I would imagine the games in Leeds play similar to the ones in Stockton, play tight aggressive and fairly ABC it still works in the long term, I sometimes pop down with the intention of getting lairy but I can"t do it because it"s usually a losing strategy imo. Last night for instance played literally 5 hands before the first break then after the break loosened up and I still
Only play AK and Aces so get the respect, if that doesn"t work just win your all ins, shove/fold poker it"s an easy game then no thinking required, Gl, Gl.

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #248 on: November 09, 2016, 17:10:55 PM »

I would imagine the games in Leeds play similar to the ones in Stockton, play tight aggressive and fairly ABC it still works in the long term, I sometimes pop down with the intention of getting lairy but I can"t do it because it"s usually a losing strategy imo. Last night for instance played literally 5 hands before the first break then after the break loosened up and I still
Only play AK and Aces so get the respect, if that doesn"t work just win your all ins, shove/fold poker it"s an easy game then no thinking required, Gl, Gl.


Brian has the answer :)
Mind you, if he only plays AK and KK+ then he is outrunning the statistical likelihood of being dealt those hands...
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #249 on: November 10, 2016, 10:15:41 AM »
I don"t play a great deal live, and it"s been a few years since I last went to DTD, but would get the same play in a $50 comp there?

If I was to play in a 25/25 game would the standed be diffrent?
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #250 on: November 10, 2016, 10:32:14 AM »
Played 2 games this week in the APAT Allstars, 6 max on Monday top 3 paid I came 4th. Razz last night,top 3 got paid I came 5th. It"s a shame the points are on money won and not the top 10.

Lost a flip in the 6 max when holiding AK v 44, I hit the A but a 4 also came.

When I played regular online, my go to game when i got board of holdem was Razz so was looking forward to last nights game. Lost most of my chips when betting a 6 low for them to have the nuts but realy enjoyed it.

Don"t think I will be playing anymore in the present league but will try to play from the first game in the next league

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #251 on: November 10, 2016, 10:57:49 AM »

I don"t play a great deal live, and it"s been a few years since I last went to DTD, but would get the same play in a $50 comp there?

If I was to play in a 25/25 game would the standed be diffrent?


I don"t go to DTD these days, but I dare say it"s pretty similar, and probably much the same in the early stages of the bigger games given the volume of satellite winners.

tbh, I"m not sure if we want it to be too different. The fundamental issues, IMO, are that we "make hands, get paid" and that we remember the adage that you can"t rep a hand against someone who isn"t thinking about what you might have.


25/25? Not sure, I mean, there are some good players to be found in those fields, but who wants to spend their life battling with Simon Deadman and Andy Hulme for every pot?
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #252 on: November 11, 2016, 16:06:03 PM »
IMO only 25/25 play similar to normal comps, found th £500 much harder to get chips, only vey little limping seen in 2 days, the only guy who limped was constantly 3/4 bet and he was out fairly quick.  Ack to the sights of NYC, just had a small break in being a tourist.

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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #253 on: November 11, 2016, 18:35:24 PM »

IMO only 25/25 play similar to normal comps, found th £500 much harder to get chips, only vey little limping seen in 2 days, the only guy who limped was constantly 3/4 bet and he was out fairly quick.  Ack to the sights of NYC, just had a small break in being a tourist.


Back in the days when I played £1000 buy in tournaments (when I could win seats in satellites) I played the UKIPT 6-max.

Not only was there no limping, there wasn"t a lot of calling. Fun day out that one.
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Re: In the beginning
« Reply #254 on: January 19, 2017, 18:42:51 PM »
The first thing I look for when the new season is announced is where and when is the Team Champs, to my delight it was in Blackpool just over an hour 1/2 drive for most of the Yorkshire team. To me this tournament is one if not the best event of the whole calendar. Its the only time I let myself have a drink and poker becomes more of something to do rather then the main reason. The only thing we have to do now is get our team in. Since the start of the online team games Yorkshire Poker Club have always had team(s) entered in them right back to when it was a regional league. We have always supported APAT whenever we could so was surprised when unfortunately we did not get a place. But when you look further into it its not so much of a surprise. Firstly our record is appalling, I think finishing last in 2 of the last 3 years and the other year was not much better, and with the event being over subscribed it was just our turn to miss out.

What makes it more depressing is when you see all the teams being announced and all the familiar names who you would have a good drink and chat with. Now my first thought was since my own team (YPC) did not get a place I could always try and get in the APAT team however the team was picked before the teams were announced so not giving anyone else the opportunity to play for APAT.

So my next thought was to put a post up saying that I was available if needed, however while all this is going through my mind the Mrs had gone and booked a weekend away on the same weekend  :(

So this year I wont be at the Team Championships but if APAT can have it in Leeds or Sheffield next year to make up for YPC not being there this year, I would be grateful. (I think the chances are nil  :D)  
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