WSOP Fantasy teams rules and selections..(page3)

[MintTrav]

Each category has a list of 10 players chosen by the organiser which we have to select one from, giving a team of 8.

Absolutely not. Totally hate that idea. I want to find my own players who I think will do well, preferably ones that others have overlooked.

[fandango]

Each category has a list of 10 players chosen by the organiser which we have to select one from, giving a team of 8.

Absolutely not. Totally hate that idea. I want to find my own players who I think will do well, preferably ones that others have overlooked.

I think this was suggested as ease of tracking cashes etc.. I must agree to a certain extent with John as I prehaps have some picks that wouldn"t make the 10 listed in each catergorie.. But I will go with what the majority of players see fit. I"m happy to have a list of 10 players to choose from and if I don"t see a player in that list have the option to choose my own, but this would be down to the person who is willing to do the spreadsheet?

How are you with excell John? Could/would you like to volunteer to update scores, I"m happy to look for cashes each day via poker news and I"m sure we an all pull together to help..

[MintTrav]

Each category has a list of 10 players chosen by the organiser which we have to select one from, giving a team of 8.

Absolutely not. Totally hate that idea. I want to find my own players who I think will do well, preferably ones that others have overlooked.

I think this was suggested as ease of tracking cashes etc.. I must agree to a certain extent with John as I prehaps have some picks that wouldn"t make the 10 listed in each catergorie.. But I will go with what the majority of players see fit. I"m happy to have a list of 10 players to choose from and if I don"t see a player in that list have the option to choose my own, but this would be down to the person who is willing to do the spreadsheet?

How are you with excell John? Could/would you like to volunteer to update scores, I"m happy to look for cashes each day via poker news and I"m sure we an all pull together to help..

Excel is the other love of my life apart from poker, and it doesn"t mistreat me the way poker does, so I wouldn"t mind doing that. Using a lookup could avoid the need to search for piles of players manually.

[hi_am_chris]

Prefer not having a list to choose from and having to find my own "squad", it means the teams can be more varied

[mporter123]

In for this, props and all please.

I have no opinion on the format, will be happy with whatever is chosen. My only advice would be to just copy the format and scoring from another forum - 2+2, blonde etc. Work is then done for you rather than trying to create something from scratch.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61015.0

[fandango]

Each category has a list of 10 players chosen by the organiser which we have to select one from, giving a team of 8.

Absolutely not. Totally hate that idea. I want to find my own players who I think will do well, preferably ones that others have overlooked.

I think this was suggested as ease of tracking cashes etc.. I must agree to a certain extent with John as I prehaps have some picks that wouldn"t make the 10 listed in each catergorie.. But I will go with what the majority of players see fit. I"m happy to have a list of 10 players to choose from and if I don"t see a player in that list have the option to choose my own, but this would be down to the person who is willing to do the spreadsheet?

How are you with excell John? Could/would you like to volunteer to update scores, I"m happy to look for cashes each day via poker news and I"m sure we an all pull together to help..

Excel is the other love of my life apart from poker, and it doesn"t mistreat me the way poker does, so I wouldn"t mind doing that. Using a lookup could avoid the need to search for piles of players manually.

Prefer not having a list to choose from and having to find my own "squad", it means the teams can be more varied

Think we can have a rule then that we have catergories with 10 picks that are chosen by organisers.. If a player wants to choose this option it"s fine, or if another player wants to prehaps choose a different player that falls into that c atergorie then that is fine..for example previous ME winners there are 10 listed and say Doyle Brunson is not on the list of ten, and you want him in your squad you can bring him in. Regarding if there is any confusion over a players nationality then I think it is only fair that we use the Hendon Mobs info regarding this..?

I think this is a fair way of going about it, we have to respect Johns wishes IMO as he is the defending champ I believe  

So are we happy to have 6 sub catergories and 2 wild card picks to have a team of 8?
If so what 6 sub Catergories are we wanting?  I like Adams choices albeit the 2013 POTY prehaps this might include many of the players in the other 5.. Maybe another suggestion? Or you all happy with it as it is?

Scoring,I like Robs idea with going as the same as Blonde did last year.. Also happy with Adams suggestion of having a chosen Captain that scores double points..

What you guys think?

[KarmaDope]

Yeah, the reason I suggested categories of 10 is for ease of searching for players when it comes to cashes etc. 60 + wildcards a lot easier than say nearly 200 + wildcards!

[fandango]

Ok folks I have done a draft of catergories with 10 players in each. You have a choice of picking a player from the catergorie or if you think you have a better pick then that"s fine as long as they fulfil the requirement..

Previous Main Event winner..

1. Phil Hellmuth
2. Johnny Chan
3. Huck Seed
4. Scotty Nguyen
5. Carlos Mortensen
6. Chris Moneymaker
7. Joe Hachem
8. Jonathan Duhamel
9. Joe Cada
10. Peter Eastgate

British player

1. Chris Moorman
2. Sam Grafton
3. Jake Cody
4. David Vamplew
5. Sam Trickett
6. Neil Channing
7. Toby Lewis
8. JP Kelly
9. Stephen Chidwick
10. Sam Razavi


Female

1. Liv Boree
2. Vanessa Selbst
3. Jennifer Harman
4. Maria Ho
5. Vanessa Rousso
6. Annette Obrestad
7. Sandra Naujoks
8. Victoria Coren Web
9. Amanda Musumeci
10. Ana Marquez

European player

1. Ole Schemion
2. Olivier Busquet
3. Marvin Rettenmaier
4. Eugene Katchalov
5. Philip Gruissem
6. Martin Finger
7. Elky
8. Yevgeny Timoshenko
9. Alex Bilokur
10.Igor Kurganov

High Stakes

1. Daniel Negreanu
2. Barry Greenstein
3. Antonio Estfandiari
4. Mike McDonald
5. Phil Galfond
6. Viktor Blom
7. IIari Sahamies
8. Phil Ivey
9. Daniel Cates
10. Gus Hanson

Wild Cards

1.
2.
[3].

Do we have 2 wild cards making a squad of 7 or 3 wild cards making 8?

As John has kindly volunteered to do the spreadsheets I would be happy for him to make this decision..

Also are we all happy with choosing a captain that scores double points?

Think Robs scoring system seems fairest and if anyone has any objections then we will go with this..

Entry fee £10 to cover both series and ME or £5 if you just want one of the options?
I don"t mind holding funds or if anyone else wants to then I"m happy for them to, PayPal or bank transfer so prize pool is kept separate from say stars transfer..

Personally I would like to keep my picks a secret until the start of series, so if John is happy receiving teams via pm then think that would be a good way around others theiving my winning squad  

Closing date for entries and payment.. May 25th.

[Sugar_Free]

8. Victoria Coren Web

ISWYDT  

[MintTrav]

Have three wildcards imo - why not?

I"m happy to receive teams by pm and steal the best ones from each for myself.

I"ll pm my team to Carl early just to avoid any wondering.

[KarmaDope]

3 wildcards seems fine to me. Will be in at some point.

[fandango]

Please PM your team that you choose to John Murray (Mintrav).

The rules are pretty simple, choose 1 player from the catergories below, and 3 wild cards of your choice. You can either choose a player listed or draft in one of your own choice, that fits that particular catergory. You also need to nominate 1 of your players to be team captain, this player will score double points for you. Closing date will be on May 25th.

Scoring..

5 points if they win a Bracelet
3 points for a Final Table apperance (last 8 of HU event)
1 point for a cash

2 points for ME cash
5 points for Nov 9
10 points for ME win

Prizes..

We will hold a prizepool if you decide to join the payed game, which will cost £10 if you want both series and ME sweat, or £5 if you just want one or other (please state when submitting team). Depending on how many play will depend on how many places will pay. (this will be decided when registration closes on May 25th)
Des has kindly offered a added value prize consisting of a live main event ticket which will also be won by the winning contestant..
If you decide to play for fun you would still be in with a chance of winning this.

Catergories..


Previous Main Event winner..

1. Phil Hellmuth
2. Johnny Chan
3. Huck Seed
4. Scotty Nguyen
5. Carlos Mortensen
6. Chris Moneymaker
7. Joe Hachem
8. Jonathan Duhamel
9. Joe Cada
10. Peter Eastgate

British player

1. Chris Moorman
2. Sam Grafton
3. Jake Cody
4. David Vamplew
5. Sam Trickett
6. Neil Channing
7. Toby Lewis
8. JP Kelly
9. Stephen Chidwick
10. Sam Razavi


Female

1. Liv Boree
2. Vanessa Selbst
3. Jennifer Harman
4. Maria Ho
5. Vanessa Rousso
6. Annette Obrestad
7. Sandra Naujoks
8. Victoria Coren Web
9. Amanda Musumeci
10. Ana Marquez

European player

1. Ole Schemion
2. Olivier Busquet
3. Marvin Rettenmaier
4. Eugene Katchalov
5. Philip Gruissem
6. Martin Finger
7. Elky
8. Yevgeny Timoshenko
9. Alex Bilokur
10.Igor Kurganov

High Stakes

1. Daniel Negreanu
2. Barry Greenstein
3. Antonio Estfandiari
4. Mike McDonald
5. Phil Galfond
6. Viktor Blom
7. IIari Sahamies
8. Phil Ivey
9. Daniel Cates
10. Gus Hanson

Wild Cards

1.
2.
3.





Payment is by Paypal or Bank transfer only and once you have submitted your team to John via PM he will contact me and i will PM you with details.. Once you have paid or you decide you just want the freeroll i will add your name to the confirmed list of entrants..


Any questions please can you post them on the discussion thread here.. http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=15103.30

So peeps you have a little over three weeks to get your squads in and amaze us all with your knowledge of whos a shark and whos a fish!!

Good luck all

[fandango]

List of entrants..

1. Carl Pilgrim.. Paid
2. Dann Williams.. Paid
3. John "reigning champ" Murray... Paid
4. Adrian Long... Paid
5. Richard "curly" Baker.. Paid
6. Dave Howard... Paid
7. Gary Phillips.. paid
8. Warren Jones..Paid
9. Mark Porter.. Paid
10. Simon Brooke... Paid
11. Dave Paxton.. (Free version)
12. Adam Sharples
13. Craig Dawson..Paid
14. Rob Swindells..Paid
15. Steve Ball.. (Free version )
16. Debbie Kim.. Paid
17. Chris Hiam.. Paid
18. Asa McGrath .. Paid
19. Barry Cullen..Paid


Prize pool..

Series.. £80
Main Event.. £80

1x £82.50 APAT National seat courtesy of APAT.. To overall winner.

[KarmaDope]

eventually...

[MintTrav]

I have received Carl"s team and have pm"d mine to him. I could have pinched someone good from his but there wasn"t anyone you would want to steal. Although we can choose eight players, it was quite difficult to decide who to leave out. There were a couple I wanted to include but couldn"t fit in. Maybe we need ten next time.