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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2014, 01:18:19 AM »


Pot Limit Omaha first  The two day Irish Amateur Poker Championship will be played in the Pot Limit Omaha format, a first for APAT.  In another first, the two day festival will take place at a hotel - Bewleys Hotel, Dublin Airport -and feature a series of mixed side events and round the clock cash games.



Any chance you can share the logic for this mutation Tom?

First instinct, bit of a slap in the face for us few loyal Irish Apat"rs.

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2014, 08:09:12 AM »



Pot Limit Omaha first  The two day Irish Amateur Poker Championship will be played in the Pot Limit Omaha format, a first for APAT.  In another first, the two day festival will take place at a hotel - Bewleys Hotel, Dublin Airport -and feature a series of mixed side events and round the clock cash games.



Any chance you can share the logic for this mutation Tom?

First instinct, bit of a slap in the face for us few loyal Irish Apat"rs.



I agree. It means I probably won"t be going to Dublin (or if I do go I won"t be playing) and I actually think this will be the case for a lot of people. Also this event will be the only event some people living in Dublin and Ireland go too and changing it seems strange. It is also an event that does not get the biggest attendance already and therefore less of the people who wanted a PLO event will get to play it and some of the locals who would otherwise play it will not bother. If an event has to be a PLO event this seems to be the wrong one?

Could you alter it? Maybe opinions from our Irish players would be of more value?

I really like the schedule and will be playing most (ideally all) of these events. Seems to be a good spread around the country and good timings  as well. All of the venues are good and most people should be able to get to most of them which is all you can ask for. This is pretty much what the tour should look like in my opinion.
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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2014, 08:26:33 AM »
Just to add to the last couple of posts, I would most definitely like to play a 2 day plo comp as part of the schedule, but having it for the Dublin leg means I, and others I suspect, will be priced out of being able to attend.

I do think it"s a great idea in principle, just seems it would have maybe been better incorporated into one of the British legs (although appreciate there may be logistical reasons why that couldn"t happen).

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2014, 10:00:11 AM »
Haven"t played in one of these for years. Got to be done this year - looks a great line up.

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2014, 10:31:22 AM »
Any Sunday games? are we going to mix it up, 6-max, shoot out, Stud?    

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2014, 10:44:52 AM »




Pot Limit Omaha first  The two day Irish Amateur Poker Championship will be played in the Pot Limit Omaha format, a first for APAT.  In another first, the two day festival will take place at a hotel - Bewleys Hotel, Dublin Airport -and feature a series of mixed side events and round the clock cash games.



Any chance you can share the logic for this mutation Tom?

First instinct, bit of a slap in the face for us few loyal Irish Apat"rs.



I agree. It means I probably won"t be going to Dublin (or if I do go I won"t be playing) and I actually think this will be the case for a lot of people. Also this event will be the only event some people living in Dublin and Ireland go too and changing it seems strange. It is also an event that does not get the biggest attendance already and therefore less of the people who wanted a PLO event will get to play it and some of the locals who would otherwise play it will not bother. If an event has to be a PLO event this seems to be the wrong one?

Could you alter it? Maybe opinions from our Irish players would be of more value?

I really like the schedule and will be playing most (ideally all) of these events. Seems to be a good spread around the country and good timings  as well. All of the venues are good and most people should be able to get to most of them which is all you can ask for. This is pretty much what the tour should look like in my opinion.


I love the concept of playing out a championship event in something other than NLHE for a change - and PLO is the format that most people know behind NLHE.... I see this as a great opportunity. I"m gutted however that it"s in Dublin as I won"t be there :(

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2014, 13:45:51 PM »
I understand some of the "pushback" regarding the Irish event and while I"m sure Tom can, and will, speak for himself I have some comments of my own...as you might expect.

I do not speak for APAT (although I am an enthusiastic supporter) but I do have a tiny insight into some of the behind the scenes...kind of like peeking through  the keyhole...as such, what I think I know might be distorted by that limited view.

With all that said...Ireland was a late addition to the schedule and, indeed, it was quite likely for a number of reasons there would, in fact, NOT have been a visit this season and so I was quite surprised (and delighted) when it made it"s appearance.

However, the choice, I believe was between this or nothing.

As has been said, the Irish events have, historically, been poorly supported by UK members and, indeed, last year"s event at the Fitz had one of the lowest turnouts ever.

This does not include loyal local players and I can understand their disappointment but by the same token, from my own observations PLO is HUGE in Ireland, certainly, it"s more popular there than in England, so the logic of a PLO event there makes more sense, to me, than trying the same, for instance, in Coventry especially if one were, for instance, trying to spread the word about APAT in Ireland.

On the cost front I see this again and again, and I do not believe it really stacks up. Newcastle/Manchester/Leeds and Scotland are in the same ballpark (for me) as Ireland. Now, of course, you have to commit to an Ireland event and plan for at least two nights and so that might be skew some thinking.

Then again, the craic is worth the extra... :)

My 2 cents.

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2014, 13:50:32 PM »

Any Sunday games? are we going to mix it up, 6-max, shoot out, Stud?    


I believe that each event will, as has been traditional, have a side event.

What that will be, for each venue, will depend on dealer availability and competencies.

I"d like to see different poker variants on Sunday but as I"m sure we all know, the ability of casinos to actually provide them varies from venue to venue.
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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2014, 15:57:42 PM »
Great post Paulie

Personally I very much like the schedule and can"t wait to get back to apat as it has been too long. Obviously try to give useful feedback however reading your post I can understand the reason for this. I will hopefully go to Dublin anyway.

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2014, 17:56:50 PM »
what to visit to Europe this year. welsh championships in england and the irish is plo. have to check shifts and will attend when off work but deffo not playing plo in ireland. thing this is a huge mistake. lucky if it gets 40 runners. would have gone subject to work had it been holdem. wcoap in london again. well guess they earned it ginven how hard their staff worked whist we were there. deffo dont agree with a national championship been played in outside the nation whos championship it is meant to be.
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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2014, 18:17:37 PM »
I have to say that I"m very happy with most of the chosen venues, especially Manchester :)  but what happened to DTD ? Did they not want us this time or was it an APAT decision not to go there ?
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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2014, 18:20:16 PM »
ABSOLUTLEY BUZZING FOR SESON 8,I LIVE  ON SOUTH COAST SO WIL ONLY BE ABLE TO DO WELSH, ENGLISH AND WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS WHICH IM SO GLAD IS AT ASPERS AND  I PROMISED MY MISSUS I WOULD TAKE HER AWAY FOR BDAY WHICH IS 29TH MARCH   SO LONDON IT IS .....

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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2014, 18:23:02 PM »

what to visit to Europe this year. welsh championships in england and the irish is plo. have to check shifts and will attend when off work but deffo not playing plo in ireland. thing this is a huge mistake. lucky if it gets 40 runners. would have gone subject to work had it been holdem. wcoap in london again. well guess they earned it ginven how hard their staff worked whist we were there. deffo dont agree with a national championship been played in outside the nation whos championship it is meant to be.


Europe?

Do you mean that there is no event on the Continent this season?

If so, the feedback APAT received was that, in general, the UK player base weren"t enthusiastic about that and that it was a    "jolly" for the die-hards only. APAT has obviously taken that on board which is not to say that APAT doesn"t still intend to be in Europe.

You never know...

Wales

I"m sure that APAT were acutely aware that the decision to hold the Welsh championsihip in Bristol might raise a few eyebrows but, as has been said before, the current venues in Wales just aren"t able (or willing) to meet APAT's needs.

The venues available are just too small and/or can"t service APAT properly over  the two days to a standard that would be acceptable.

The Welsh aren"t complaining...:)

Ireland

I think you are wrong but time will tell. I"m confident that APAT made a pretty informed decision about the whole thing. If they really thought no-one would turn out for it...they wouldn"t put it on.

Stratford

Completely agree....Aspers earned it and with, I hope, the schedule being available 6 months in advance it will give us a chance to see what agreements (if any) we can come to with local establishments in terms of keeping the cost down.
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2014, 18:36:28 PM »

what happened to DTD ? Did they not want us this time or was it an APAT decision not to go there ?


Frankly, I don"t know the full answer to that.

I have heard that APAT is an expensive proposition for DTD to put on which may have been a driver towards a certain reluctance on their part when they could put on their own events at a higher buy-in value over a major holiday period.

You can"t blame them for that.

Also, Aspers did such a bang up job last time they do seem to have pulled out all the stops for Season 8

A 10 day festival! That"s unprecedented in the UK, I think....
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Re: APAT Season 8 Discussion Thread
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2014, 18:40:26 PM »
is it safe to assume the home nations and euro team games will be played on thurs and fri prior to main events or have they been dropped.

gone through my shift pattern up to end of jan.

welsh off and playing
eng  working not playing
uk off thurs working fri sat and sund. not playing main event. will swap a shift if team game on and picked for scot.
uk team game off but unlikely to play
ire off but not playing.
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