Something Strange Going On ??

[jacko159]

My first ever thread and I am interested to see what you think about the following hand.

Down to the last six in an online Pot Limit Omaha tourney, only the last five get paid ranging from $1600 to $320.  Three of the final table (Players B, D and E) have been regularly using the chat box, first in German and, after a warning from another player, in English.  The three all seem well acquainted with one another.  Part of one conversation relates to how much player D has won this last month and how much player B desperately needs to cash.

Chip standings are as follows:-

  Player A - 20880
  Me        - 7780
  Player B - 5520
  Player C - 31805
  Player D - 38160
  Player E - 8355

I post SB of 400, Player B posts BB of 800.

Player C folds.
Player D calls 800.
Player E folds.
Player A folds
I fold.
Player B checks.

Flop  :  :    ::

Both check.

Turn  

Player B bets 2000
Player D calls 2000

River  ::

Player B pushes all-in for his last 2720, pot is now 8720.

Player D will still be chip leader with 32640 if he calls and loses the pot.

Player D folds.

Thoughts please........


Steve Jackson

[Chipaccrual]

Looks fairly blatant to me.  How did you finish in the tourney ?

[duke3016]

[noble1]

looks ok , i dont think there is enough here to say there is any chip dumping going on.
Looks as if player b has straight and player d on the turn called a flush draw or played a set bad..

[Jon MW]

looks ok , i dont think there is enough here to say there is any chip dumping going on.
Looks as if player b has straight and player d on the turn called a flush draw or played a set bad..

+1

I"m not so up on Omaha compared to hold"em but I don"t think you can really draw too many conclusions from this unless you knew their specific cards.

[Waz1892]

would the hand that was played, stand out as chip dumping to you without the chat details...

[noble1]

no - unless u can actually prove they said in chat that they were going to chip dump.

some dumbos have been to known to do it,its happened to me on stars in a london ept sat on the bubble,after 2 attempts to complain to stars support they finally gave me a free pass to the final but only warned the players involved not to do it again.

But if you was doing it properly a mobile or aim would be better to communicate than through the chatbox.

[jacko159]

Looks fairly blatant to me.  How did you finish in the tourney ?

Eventually sixth, 88A2 v TTKJ, 14 outs on the flop but missed them all.

[jacko159]

would the hand that was played, stand out as chip dumping to you without the chat details...

Probably not, but the whole hand was unusual in the context of what had been taking place at the FT.

The action by the big stack when first in had always been a pot sized raise and he had called similar all-in shoves on the river to knock out 7th and 8th without having monster hands.  Limping in to the pot, flat calling the bet on the turn and then folding the river with good odds seemed strange.  If he had called the river bet and lost I would have been less suspicious.