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Swinebag

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2008, 13:08:14 PM »
Thanks for quoting my post, but then not commenting on it ???
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2008, 13:11:31 PM »

Thanks for quoting my post, but then not commenting on it ???
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2008, 13:12:22 PM »
Only joking.  I will comment on it in detail, but I didn"t have the time to do it justice and it also impacts on what I was thinking at the time.  I will definitely be commenting on it tomorrow.

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2008, 13:40:15 PM »

Thanks for quoting my post, but then not commenting on it ???


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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2008, 11:13:32 AM »

I will definitely be commenting on it tomorrow.

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2008, 11:22:38 AM »


I will definitely be commenting on it tomorrow.

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2008, 13:35:01 PM »
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Kinboshi - how would you play it (or how would you have played it differently up to now)?


Not to much wrong Kinboshi,playing 33 utg with your image is ok by me as they wont expect you to be playing this hand utg.
The raise utg if i were playing in a deep stack would be x 2.5bb and on the flop with the king i would lead out 2/3 pot rather than the 3/4 you did,with the texture of the flop,2 callers and your position i may of check called flop and re-evaluated on the turn,
but both leading and check calling are ok.
If it had only been loose guy calling then i"d definitely check call him flop and plan to pot commit him on the turn.

It still intrigues me as to what the BB has,is he good?? if it turns out he has KK or 99 and he 1.. didnt reraise oop KK i"m sick  2.. if he has 99 then i dont like the way he has played it in the position he is in. If it turns out he has played AKo KQo KJo or TJcc then good internet player becomes ATM in my notes  ;D
If it turns out he has 99 and he check raises the turn then i would be sick....
But my logic says if he is good oop with either hand he would not play this situation like this, i await to find out.......If anyone has a higher set then loose guy is the most likely but is range here is so wide and if i could isolate him on the turn and have 5000 chips left if my read was wrong,then thats not a bad gamble..

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2008, 13:48:29 PM »
« Last Edit: December 18, 2008, 14:01:49 PM by Kinboshi »
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2008, 14:03:11 PM »
Been away for 3 days, and not had chance to check the Forum, but really enjoyed this thread, particularly the reference to the mighty Blues snatching victory from the richest club in the world! ;D
By the way Daniel, for what its worth I think you did pretty well not to go broke on this hand, just shows how difficult oop play is.
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2008, 14:06:19 PM »
Young lad [tells everyone he is good] = Weak Donkey  lmao

out of intrest,did the river pair the board ?

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2008, 14:13:31 PM »

Young lad [tells everyone he is good] = Weak Donkey  lmao

out of intrest,did the river pair the board ?


No pair on the board, so the flush held up.  The young lad got a broken nose, a thick lip and two black eyes from where the deck continued to smack him in the face for the next few hours.  He didn"t cash though, and it seemed his luck only took him so far.
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2008, 14:32:41 PM »
what a surprise that he did not cash   ;D

is the std this bad generally in the £300 Kinboshi ?? or is this a isolated incident?

[no concept of position,odds,hand values,awareness of opponents possible holdings]
the lad could be winning wsop 09 , you better keep an eye on this precocious talent.

LMAO    

http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-articles/can-poker-be-taught-3688619

but yes you played it correctly by re-evaluating on the turn card,this shove it in mentality is something i see a lot in the online sunday majors by the satt players,sadly in a deep stack this strategy in early levels leads to many early exits.
If they happen to double up they rarely hang onto there chips for long enough to take these mtts down..
What surprises me is that if everyone railed a known ranked player such as Pearljammer,JohhnyBax,Sn8wman,AJKHoosier1,moorman1,djk123,brsavage,      P0KERPR033,number1pen,sheets,The d ry,gboro780 are all imo excellent mtt players and if you ever get a chance to watch them,you"ll be amazed at the patience and consistency these guys show and you can learn so much.

good fold Kinboshi
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2008, 14:53:13 PM »
There are a mix of all sorts to be honest.  Quite a few very decent players amongst the field, but also some terrible ones.

In general, the standard of live play is far lower than online from my experience.
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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2008, 15:00:10 PM »
Sigh

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Re: playing a set out of position.
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2008, 15:10:29 PM »

Sigh


Is that a sigh that I"m one of the bad players?  :D

You don"t like the way I played it at all?  
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