Why ?

[Chipaccrual]

If someone can explain what "mentor13" is thinking by this move, I would be very grateful.  Apart from the fact he wins the pot.

I think my play was correct.  The raise, then re-raise all-in to isolate the short stacks all-in, but why, why, why does he then call off nearly half his stack.

We are nearly two hours in, 285 of 747 left, paying top 108.

Any thoughts ?


PokerStars Game #23591406386: Tournament #131675642, $30+$3 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2009/01/05 11:37:12 GMT [2009/01/05 6:37:12 ET]
Table "131675642 62" 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Chipaccrual (5610 in chips)
Seat 2: Drewwad (5372 in chips)
Seat 3: marcol1969 (7575 in chips)
Seat 4: 170nic (5100 in chips)
Seat 5: mentor13 (12645 in chips)
Seat 6: elgordo420 (3438 in chips)
Seat 7: madpeet (6955 in chips)
Seat 8: skyag (4564 in chips)
Seat 9: "&bidouace" (7055 in chips)
mentor13: posts small blind 100
elgordo420: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chipaccrual [ kc kh]
madpeet: folds
skyag: folds
"&bidouace": folds
Chipaccrual: raises 400 to 600
Drewwad: folds
marcol1969: folds
170nic: folds
mentor13: calls 500
elgordo420: raises 2838 to 3438 and is all-in
Chipaccrual: raises 2172 to 5610 and is all-in
mentor13: calls 5010
*** FLOP *** [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] [ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mentor13: shows [ac qd] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
Chipaccrual: shows [kc kh] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
mentor13 collected 4344 from side pot
elgordo420: shows [ ] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
mentor13 collected 10314 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14658 Main pot 10314. Side pot 4344. | Rake 0
Board [ ad]
Seat 1: Chipaccrual showed [kc kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 2: Drewwad folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 3: marcol1969 folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 4: 170nic (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: mentor13 (small blind) showed [ac qd] and won (14658) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 6: elgordo420 (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 7: madpeet folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: skyag folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 9: "&bidouace" folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[deanp27]

its pretty terrible but you will get much worse calls in most online tournaments.

As long as your play is fine i wouldn"t get too hung up on the play of villain.

just unlucky on your part

[Jon MW]

It"s because he doesn"t realise there"s a difference between being up against one player and being up against more than one.

Apart from the fact that obv. it makes it more likely that one of you might have AK, AA or KK I suspect his main problem is that he thinks:

AQ v Underpair = coinflip
therefore
AQ v 2 underpairs = coinflip
and poss.
AQ v Ax (
Even this might be crediting him with too much, he may have just thought: all in, I have AQ = call

[kinboshi]

He had an ace.

[Jon MW]

He had an ace.

This is the shorter version of my post

[lukybugur]

He had an ace.

, another quality post by the no nonsense, less technical mind of Kinfishi

[kinboshi]

[AMRN]

Don"t get upset when someone calls with AQ against your KK - these are the situations and donkey moves you are hoping for, and which in the long run will win you money...... of course your dominating hand will not win every time though - just gotta grin, congratulate the fish on his excellent play, and move on to the next one.

[kinboshi]

Don"t get upset when someone calls with AQ against your KK - these are the situations and donkey moves you are hoping for, and which in the long run will win you money...... of course your dominating hand will not win every time though - just gotta grin, congratulate the fish on his excellent play, and move on to the next one.

That"s what I said.

[Chipaccrual]

Just had a double up on another tourney.  Same situation, different result.

Is that what they call variance ?

[kinboshi]

Just had a double up on another tourney.  Same situation, different result.

Is that what they call variance ?

I think it"s called karma.  Or it might be korma - I get confused.

[noble1]

Prizes     Profit  ROI         ABI    AFS  R/A    ITM   ITM
$309     <$0     -69%    $11    800     9%     6/87   7%   

mentor13 - looking at his stats, all round donkey beginner is my guess  


out of interest Chipaccrual what have you shown down lately? or have you been active without any cards shown?

my guess though mentor13 is a poor player   [just plays his cards]

[Chipaccrual]

That was my feeling Noble.  Can"t remember showing down much on that table.  Anything shown would have been premium.

Will have to check hand history.  Certainly no bluffs shown.

[Swinebag]

Its annoying, when after 2 hours, you still have players that bad still in the tourney. But nonetheless, be grateful for the call and pray that this guy sucked out a few more times and cashed in this. That way he"ll be back and you can feed off him next time

[noble1]

just thought i might suggest what your image was as elgordo420 is a ok player at this
type of buy in level..[just wondered if he thought he could push you off,he multi tables a lot,so i"m guessing he had ace hud]