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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2009, 01:54:11 AM »
Nice one, I"m jelous, sure you"ll have an amazing time!

I hear the MGM has a plush cardroom too  ;)
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2009, 02:22:06 AM »

Nice one, I"m jelous, sure you"ll have an amazing time!

I hear the MGM has a plush cardroom too  ;)



And fishy, if you can block out the noise surrounding it (and the girls hitting Studio 54)!

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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2009, 02:40:16 AM »


Nice one, I"m jelous, sure you"ll have an amazing time!

I hear the MGM has a plush cardroom too  ;)



And fishy, if you can block out the noise surrounding it (and the girls hitting Studio 54)!


Yeah a few people have mentioned the noise surrounding it, but och well. hopefully i"ll get a chance to play poker next time i"m over - was spending most of the time with the gf when I was there so just the usual - swimming pool or day trip during the day, meal at night then "teaching" her how to gamble --- "let it ride one more time, it"s going to come once more" she says with her $10 on black that has hit the last 6 times and accumulated to $640 - I simply refuse to let her and tell her to take the $640 off the table - of course it hits black AGAIN and I get an earful. lol... oh well - poker next time i"m sure!
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2009, 09:39:29 AM »
MGM poker room is quite fishy (very LAG) so it pays to be either LAGier or TAG. At $1/$2 I couldn"t afford to be LAG so had to wait for good starting hands and play them strong. It wasn"t uncommon for me to raise it 4 or 5xBB PF from an early position, with my tight image and get three callers. I did OK with these kind of hands - I just seemed to be very difficult to call such PF Raises with anything that wasn"t a premium hand.

The rake is one of the highest in Vegas apparently, the tournaments are fairly well run but have a quick pace about them and the SnGs are just bonkers quick. They seem to want you in and out as soon as possible after having paid your rake.

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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2009, 15:25:45 PM »

MGM poker room is quite fishy (very LAG) so it pays to be either LAGier or TAG. At $1/$2 I couldn"t afford to be LAG so had to wait for good starting hands and play them strong. It wasn"t uncommon for me to raise it 4 or 5xBB PF from an early position, with my tight image and get three callers. I did OK with these kind of hands - I just seemed to be very difficult to call such PF Raises with anything that wasn"t a premium hand.

The rake is one of the highest in Vegas apparently, the tournaments are fairly well run but have a quick pace about them and the SnGs are just bonkers quick. They seem to want you in and out as soon as possible after having paid your rake.


Getting stightly off topic but I have found that most of the poker in Vegas is quite Fishy. Compaired to say an APAT event  ;D.
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2009, 15:47:55 PM »

MGM poker room is quite fishy (very LAG) so it pays to be either LAGier or TAG. At $1/$2 I couldn"t afford to be LAG so had to wait for good starting hands and play them strong. It wasn"t uncommon for me to raise it 4 or 5xBB PF from an early position, with my tight image and get three callers. I did OK with these kind of hands - I just seemed to be very difficult to call such PF Raises with anything that wasn"t a premium hand.

The rake is one of the highest in Vegas apparently, the tournaments are fairly well run but have a quick pace about them and the SnGs are just bonkers quick. They seem to want you in and out as soon as possible after having paid your rake.


Ref Rake - I can"t guarantee the accuracy of his info, but it looks about right to me...

- Orleans: $3 + $1 jackpot rake?
- Binion"s: $3 + $1
- MGM: $4 + 0, ~5% instead of 10%
- Venetian: $4 + 0
- Bellagio: $4
- Wynn: $4
- Mirage: $4
- Caesars Palace: $4 + $1
- Hard Rock Cafe: $4 + $1
- Planet Hollywood: $5 + $1
- Bill"s Poker Room: $5 + $1
- Imperial Palace: $5 + $1
- Flamingo, RIo and other Harrah"s casinos: $5 + $1?

Source: AllVegasPoker.com forum

With a max of $4 (+ $1 for jackpot, if applicable), it is only a fraction of what you"ll pay in any UK cardroom.

Oh, and at $1/£2NL, table image doesn"t mean a thing to a table full of LV tourists... if you want to thin the field when you have a premium hand make it 8x - 10x BBs. And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2009, 15:56:25 PM »

And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



That is quality.   ;D

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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2009, 17:09:31 PM »


And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



That is quality.   ;D


And true. The standard of play in most Vegas poker rooms is considerably worse than in APAT tournies
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2009, 18:15:32 PM »



And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



That is quality.   ;D


And true. The standard of play in most Vegas poker rooms is considerably worse than in APAT tournies


me all in   AA $500    called by  6 8  off  he hits straight,,tropicana lolol
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2009, 18:33:24 PM »




And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



That is quality.   ;D


And true. The standard of play in most Vegas poker rooms is considerably worse than in APAT tournies


me all in   AA $500    called by  6 8  off  he hits straight,,tropicana lolol


Maybe I should have made it clearer... the advice is "when you have the NUTS" AND CANNOT be out-drawn.

Whilst AA is the best poss hand PF and technically the nuts at that point, we all know it can and often does, change by the river!!

But the example does kinda validate my point about raise sizes and value bets... I"ll bet your $500 push didn"t get multiple callers (narrowed field size) AND you pushed with the nuts (assuming this was PF... if it wasn"t then you didn"t have the nuts) and got called by an inferior hand.

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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2009, 18:38:21 PM »




And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



That is quality.   ;D


And true. The standard of play in most Vegas poker rooms is considerably worse than in APAT tournies


me all in   AA $500    called by  6 8  off  he hits straight,,tropicana lolol


When were you all-in just out of interest?  

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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2009, 19:55:24 PM »

And most important rule of all - If you have the nuts, the value bet size on the river is always ALL-IN... you will get called often enough to make it profitable.



Not the first time I have heard this gem of a piece of advice.

Also true in some UK cardroom games too!!
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2009, 03:44:49 AM »
Have just qualified to go to Vegas through Ladbrokes for the WSOP, staying at Caesars Palace.....anyone know what its like there ??
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Re: Las Vegas in 2009
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2009, 07:33:43 AM »
Awful place... you won"t enjoy it!!

Especially the *****Cat dealers... you"ll hate them!

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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2009, 08:12:29 AM »

Have just qualified to go to Vegas through Ladbrokes for the WSOP, staying at Caesars Palace.....anyone know what its like there ??

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