Do not confused between "pot odds" and chances of winning (referred to as equity).
You are talking about your chances of winning here but your calculation is not how you work out your chances of winning here.
firstly when calculating outs (lets say 6 for arguments sake here) you have to take it from unseen cards and not cards in the deck. So there are 48 unseen cards. this does not mean that his odds are 6 in 48 of winning (or 1 in 8 or 7 to 1 - whatever). The odds you worked out Waz were the chances of a winning card hitting "first card out". Of course during the showdown there will be five chances of hitting the winning card so your chances of hitting are greatly increased.
in this particular instance there is also a chance that JK only has 3 outs so this affects the calculation. If it is a coin flip against a lower pair then there is the chance that JK can win if two pair come on the board to counterfeit the smaller pair. There are of course straight and flush possibilities for JK to win.
So.....
all these possibilities of winning (however likely or unlikey) make calculating the chance of winning near impossible
enter our friend....."pokerstove"
this program will work out JKs equity against single hands as well as against a range of hands that could be reshoving against it.
Of course, during an online tournament you haven"t really got time to plug all this in so it comes down to playing around with pokerstove and familiarising yourself with the variables so that you have a good idea of the value of your hand against various hand ranges.
The key calculation that you can make are your "pot odds" which for KJ fella can be worked out as roughly just under 3 to 1. As a guide this can be argued as a call with with any 2 cards let alone the "powerhouse" that is KJ.
noble explains this stuff much better but I hope this helps
understand now the unseen cards..(did remember this afterwards..but ty)
pot odds - (for clarity assurance purpose)//amount required to bet..against amount to win in pot..then you have the implied odds if turn and river..etc)
summery - once pot odds are determined, (3-1) compare to number of outs you have (pokerstove) 7-1..bad call?
yet people are saying std call........I have much to learn!!
off to get pokerstove and re-read harrington.
I so want to learn more of the maths behind it, such an edge at my level, and I want to get better of course, I"m getting confused as to what I should be working out and when, let alone how!!
