TIME FOR TWO DAY ONES ??

[BOINGBLITZ]

It looks from the amount of people in the online satellites this week and also the numerous people looking for seats that APAT has become a MONSTER this season.
  Is it not time to start considering having two day-ones now to accomodate all interested parties ??
  Maybe they could be situated at 2 seperate venues on the Saturday e.g. Birmingham and Walsall for the first one ??
  Or if that is not possible then why not make online qualification MANDATORY, having just one mass tourney spawning 200 qualifiers ??
  Anythings got to be better than this pot-luck as it stands now surely ??

[CrizzyConnor]

Hopefully the worlds at DTD will have two starting days...

[WarBwastardo]

It looks from the amount of people in the online satellites this week and also the numerous people looking for seats that APAT has become a MONSTER this season.
  Is it not time to start considering having two day-ones now to accomodate all interested parties ??
  Maybe they could be situated at 2 seperate venues on the Saturday e.g. Birmingham and Walsall for the first one ??
  Or if that is not possible then why not make online qualification MANDATORY, having just one mass tourney spawning 200 qualifiers ??
  Anythings got to be better than this pot-luck as it stands now surely ??

Apart from the fact that not everyone can play online - the tourny you"re suggesting sounds like the very definition of pot luck.  It"s a bummer people miss out through the clickfest, but this conversation has been had many times and is really the fairest way to allocate seats.

[Jon MW]

1. You can"t have 2 starting days unless you want to exclude people who can"t take time off work (obv. it"s easier for the most prestigious events like the World)

2. You can"t have online qualification only unless you want to exclude everybody who doesn"t play online.

3. Multi venue tournaments don"t really work. The first WSOPe was run as well as it would be possible to do for a multi venue event and it still wasn"t "ideal"

[KarmaDope]

1. You can"t have 2 starting days unless you want to exclude people who can"t take time off work (obv. it"s easier for the most prestigious events like the World)

2. You can"t have online qualification only unless you want to exclude everybody who doesn"t play online.

3. Multi venue tournaments don"t really work. The first WSOPe was run as well as it would be possible to do for a multi venue event and it still wasn"t "ideal"

1. I disagree. Not everybody works and I"m sure some people would be able to play on a Friday. People want APAT seats that much I reckon there would be a good enough demand for a Friday Day 1. Not only that, but how many live events are there - and how many Bank Holiday weekends are there? Can have 2 Day 1"s then...

2 + 3. Agreed!

[WarBwastardo]

Perhaps it"s a question of whether the venues can accommodate two day 1"s rather than a sufficient demand for seats.

[Jon MW]

1. You can"t have 2 starting days unless you want to exclude people who can"t take time off work (obv. it"s easier for the most prestigious events like the World)

2. You can"t have online qualification only unless you want to exclude everybody who doesn"t play online.

3. Multi venue tournaments don"t really work. The first WSOPe was run as well as it would be possible to do for a multi venue event and it still wasn"t "ideal"

1. I disagree. Not everybody works and I"m sure some people would be able to play on a Friday. People want APAT seats that much I reckon there would be a good enough demand for a Friday Day 1. Not only that, but how many live events are there - and how many Bank Holiday weekends are there? Can have 2 Day 1"s then...

2 + 3. Agreed!

I didn"t say that 2 day ones wouldn"t still get enough demand.

"Not everybody works"
"some people would be able to play on a Friday"

Are the people who could play - my objection was more to do with the people who couldn"t.



NB: I could always take the Friday off so I could always participate if there were 2 day ones - but I don"t think there should be (apart from the most prestigious events).

[KarmaDope]

1. You can"t have 2 starting days unless you want to exclude people who can"t take time off work (obv. it"s easier for the most prestigious events like the World)

2. You can"t have online qualification only unless you want to exclude everybody who doesn"t play online.

3. Multi venue tournaments don"t really work. The first WSOPe was run as well as it would be possible to do for a multi venue event and it still wasn"t "ideal"

1. I disagree. Not everybody works and I"m sure some people would be able to play on a Friday. People want APAT seats that much I reckon there would be a good enough demand for a Friday Day 1. Not only that, but how many live events are there - and how many Bank Holiday weekends are there? Can have 2 Day 1"s then...

2 + 3. Agreed!

I didn"t say that 2 day ones wouldn"t still get enough demand.

"Not everybody works"
"some people would be able to play on a Friday"

Are the people who could play - my objection was more to do with the people who couldn"t.



NB: I could always take the Friday off so I could always participate if there were 2 day ones - but I don"t think there should be (apart from the most prestigious events).

I see where you"re coming from MW, but I can see people who can play Friday choosing it for 2 main reasons:

1. If they bust out they"ve got the whole weekend to themselves.
2. If they make day 2 (and I assume everyone returning on Day 2 would get paid), then they"re guaranteed money AND they get a day"s break.

Plus, there"s more space in Day 1B for people who cant play Day 1A.

[BOINGBLITZ]

What will happen when all the regulars start to miss out or the big "name" players start to miss out due to sheer weight of numbers ??
  My guess is that wont happen though.

[WarBwastardo]

What will happen when all the regulars start to miss out or the big "name" players start to miss out due to sheer weight of numbers ??
  My guess is that wont happen though.

Ha what?  Who are you referring to?  My name"s quite big I suppose - 21 letters including middle name.  I"ve missed a few tournies already though.

I think you"re a bit wide of the mark mate if you"re working under the assumption that certain players have seats reserved for them.  It is just a first come first served deal.

[Chipaccrual]

What will happen when all the regulars start to miss out or the big "name" players start to miss out due to sheer weight of numbers ??
  My guess is that wont happen though.

Ha what?  Who are you referring to?  My name"s quite big I suppose - 21 letters including middle name.  I"ve missed a few tournies already though.

I think you"re a bit wide of the mark mate if you"re working under the assumption that certain players have seats reserved for them.  It is just a first come first served deal.

+1

I have sat here frantically typing like everyone else this evening.  And that was after spending $48.50 trying to satellite in.  Trust me, it cannot be anymore first come first served.

[BioBlinx]

I think its an unfair comment to presume that APAT's "biggest" or most regular players are automatically exempt from having to book themselves a seat. This is simply not true. Every single player on the list of direct buy-ins got in the same way you attempted to. Maybe next time you"ll get in and others on that list won"t. There is no favourism though, never has and never will. I understand your frustration though at not getting a seat, but I assure you that it is fair and everyone is having to do the same thing in the clickfest to buy their seat.

As for the two day 1s, I think it would work for the big events, like it did at the European event I played in season 1 at Luton, but I"m not so sure for every single national.

Anyway, unlucky on not getting in, I understand it"s frustrating, but keep at it and keep trying, you"ll get your seat at one of these!

[BOINGBLITZ]

I know you are right, but can something not be done by APAT about the fact that VISA does not appear as a means of debit-card payment ?
 It"s THAT confusion that cost me a seat but at least I haven"t pre-booked flights to Walsall......as it is...well.....down the road !!
 Would it hurt to get in touch with the payment processors ??

[BioBlinx]

Dunno mate but at least now you know its Delta for the next one. Keep playing the online series and keep trying the clickfest and I"m sure we"ll see you at one of these events soon!

[BOINGBLITZ]

cheers mate......appreciate it