Your views on Rebuy tournaments

[Danz0r]

With the WSOP announcing that there will be no rebuy tournaments this year, I wondered what everyone elses views were?

I personally agree with the decision and the reasons behind why they have been dropped.

It is true that people with bigger bankrolls can just rebuy, all in, rebuy, all in, rebuy, all in until they treble up.. I"ve seen it some of the gala casino tournies and its frustrating and not even poker, more like bingo.

I know some people on here also have higher bankrolls than others, which is why I find that the satellites are somewhat unfair when they are rebuys.
Some people can probably only afford a buy-in + 1 rebuy whereas others can afford 10+ rebuys. Its not really a level playing field.

I"m not saying theres a right / wrong answer to this and maybe some people prefer the rebuy structure.

No flames please about being a "tight bitch" or something...

-Dan

[nosey-p]

Re-buys should be band, just like i-pods and sun glasses    

[hi_am_chris]

great idea online, 3 dollar rebuys on stars although long can provide a massive return for a tiny investment

[Jon MW]

great idea online, 3 dollar rebuys on stars although long can provide a massive return for a tiny investment

So can the National Lottery

[Mikeyboy9361]

Personally I hate "em for all the obvious reasons. But I played the re buy into the APAT on line national last week, I didn"t re buy or add on and got quite deep, but some players re bought half a dozen times! I actually enjoyed the event, as it certainly was action packed!  A different set of strategies are definitely required.

[Danz0r]

Personally I hate "em for all the obvious reasons. But I played the re buy into the APAT on line national last week, I didn"t re buy or add on and got quite deep, but some players re bought half a dozen times! I actually enjoyed the event, as it certainly was action packed!  A different set of strategies are definitely required.

Thats like saying "I hate playing poker unless I win", lol.

[Swinebag]

firstly, if you are playing a rebuy as a single bullet then you are not really playing within your bankroll. You should allow for up to 10 buyins.

However, if you do go down the "single bullet" route and you can survive the rebuy period intact, then these tourneys turn into deepstacks with great value.

[Chipaccrual]

Rebuy"s certainly have their place in the poker world.  The OP was specifically asking the question about the validity of a rebuy satellite into the APAT live National events.

That"s quite a complex question.  It really depends on your thoughts on getting a seat for these events.  As we all know, the demand outweighs the demand, and long may that continue, otherwise what"s the point in holding the events ?

The way the current satellites work :-

$20 FO - 1 seat for every 7.5 players
$10 FO - 1 seat for every 15 players
$5 rebuy - 1 seat for every $150 in the prizepool

Now, if no-one rebought or added on then thats 1 seat for every 30 players, which in my opinion is ridiculous odds.

The first rebuy satellite for the UK saw the following stats :-

125 Buy-Ins
296 Rebuys & Add-Ons

Total Prizepool = $2,105
14 Seats + $5 for 15th

That"s an average spend of $16.84 per player
And 1 seat for every 9 players

If my bankroll meant that I didn"t want to rebuy and add-on, then I would be quite happy for others to increase the pot and hope that I can play premium in the first hour and build a stack.


It would be interesting to know how the players in the satellites answer this question :-


Why do you play the satellites ?

[ ] Because my bankroll won"t stretch to a £75 buy-in event without satelliting in
[ ] I could buy-in direct, but I want to try and guarantee a seat before the clickfest

I don"t know where the majority lie, but at a guess, I would say it"s the second answer (I might be wrong)

It is a tricky one though to get the balance right for gaining a seat in the National events.

[lukybugur]

[ x ] Because my bankroll won"t stretch to a £75 buy-in event without satelliting in
[   ] I could buy-in direct, but I want to try and guarantee a seat before the clickfest

[WYoung83]

did anybody else here the daniel negreanu rebuy story from the wsop from a few years ago......

apparantly he went bust and re-buyed a total of somthing like 27 times....but as soon as the re-buy period ended, he started playing properly,

( he had set the whole table up into thinking he was playing lke a maniac).

His table had more chips than any other table and he goes onto hit a few monster hands, and of course they start calling him down very lightly. He builds up a monster stack and goes on to comming 3rd overall.....he makes $70,000 profit, evan though he had to buy in 27 times.....

Now that is one of the best players thinking on another level.

[lukybugur]

He was "stacking up" his opponents as he knew he was good enough to get those chips back when the rebuys ended. All he had to pray for was he wasn"t moved table early on - fortunately he wasn"t and was able to get a large percentage of the chips he"d bought back before going to other tables as a massive chip leader each time.

Must be nice to know you"re +EV against so many players  

[kinboshi]

Hehe - rebuys are great fun.

[Danz0r]

did anybody else here the daniel negreanu rebuy story from the wsop from a few years ago......

apparantly he went bust and re-buyed a total of somthing like 27 times....but as soon as the re-buy period ended, he started playing properly,

( he had set the whole table up into thinking he was playing lke a maniac).

His table had more chips than any other table and he goes onto hit a few monster hands, and of course they start calling him down very lightly. He builds up a monster stack and goes on to comming 3rd overall.....he makes $70,000 profit, evan though he had to buy in 27 times.....

Now that is one of the best players thinking on another level.

That kind of proves my point.
Okay, he made profit in the end, but 27 rebuys just stupid, no?
It may of been his "tactic" to make it look like he was playing bad and yes, he got the last laugh, but like I say, its more like bingo sometimes.

If any of you have been to a gala casino for the £10 rebuy night then you will know what i"m talking about.. pre-flop pushes with J7o.. crazy **** like that.

I didn"t want for this thread to be based around me either, I meant it in general APAT terms, for all members. I am happy to take 2 bullets at a rebuy, but I just wanted a discussion of the structure in general. I do realise that there are two freezeout satellites also available and I know that if I dont like Rebuys, i should stfu and not play them etc.

[Foggy]

it"s just another form of poker.........imo that it allows a LAG style that you cannot play in certain freezeouts with total maniacs who will call anything.

[kinboshi]

did anybody else here the daniel negreanu rebuy story from the wsop from a few years ago......

apparantly he went bust and re-buyed a total of somthing like 27 times....but as soon as the re-buy period ended, he started playing properly,

( he had set the whole table up into thinking he was playing lke a maniac).

His table had more chips than any other table and he goes onto hit a few monster hands, and of course they start calling him down very lightly. He builds up a monster stack and goes on to comming 3rd overall.....he makes $70,000 profit, evan though he had to buy in 27 times.....

Now that is one of the best players thinking on another level.

That kind of proves my point.
Okay, he made profit in the end, but 27 rebuys just stupid, no?
It may of been his "tactic" to make it look like he was playing bad and yes, he got the last laugh, but like I say, its more like bingo sometimes.

If any of you have been to a gala casino for the £10 rebuy night then you will know what i"m talking about.. pre-flop pushes with J7o.. crazy **** like that.

I didn"t want for this thread to be based around me either, I meant it in general APAT terms, for all members. I am happy to take 2 bullets at a rebuy, but I just wanted a discussion of the structure in general. I do realise that there are two freezeout satellites also available and I know that if I dont like Rebuys, i should stfu and not play them etc.

You should look at a rebuy and multiply the buy-in by 10.  Then you"ll look at them a little differently.