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Routine question
« on: March 12, 2009, 17:57:03 PM »
Beat me - bite me - just be gentle

3 players left - blinds 400/800

Player 1 - Button 8,000
Player 2 - SB 25,000
Me -- BB 18,000

Player 1 all in
Player 2 - fold
Me  jc tc

What would you lot do - he is a good player and I have a healthy respect for his raises most of the time.....

I will share my thought process and action but would like yours first

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Re: Routine question
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2009, 18:03:07 PM »
How active is the table?

How many bets/raises/flops etc for the 3 of you?

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Re: Routine question
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 18:11:25 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on March 12, 2009, 18:03:07 PM

How active is the table?

How many bets/raises/flops etc for the 3 of you?




Sb - very active
me - not very  ;D
Button - played aggressive early - then stepped back and didn"t get involved too much in the latter stages (possibly looking for a spot).

betting was a little conservative at this point with raises not called too often

edit - raises  3-4 x
« Last Edit: March 12, 2009, 18:12:58 PM by duke3016 »
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2009, 18:14:05 PM »
you have J high, that doesn"t beat very much.

fold and shove his blind next hand
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2009, 18:40:41 PM »
ditto.... ;D
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2009, 19:45:44 PM »
tbh you are losing to a big number of hands and if you double him up it puts youself in trouble.

fold and steal some blinds seems the play to me! ;D
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2009, 22:02:40 PM »
... worse than average hand ... FOLD ... wait for a better spot ... and you do the pushing ...

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Re: Routine question
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2009, 22:43:57 PM »
Thanks guys - although for my sins I don"t agree with a fold here .

I did call -- why?

1. his range was HUGE (I think)
2. they were suited (LOL)
3. I still had ten back at 400/800
4. I am an eejit
5. it was a Duke call

I hit he had  :2s: :2c:

I agree with you all -- but it"s me you are talking about -- ask Laxie
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2009, 23:15:54 PM »
This is not helping your case here but I"d have called (assuming this is a SNG with 3 places paying). His range most probably was huge and you would still leave yourself with a pushable stack if you lose.....
Yep I"m calling.... so yep it"s the wrong move.... sry  :-[
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2009, 23:21:12 PM »
Quote from: duke3016 on March 12, 2009, 18:11:25 PM

...Button - played aggressive early - then stepped back and didn"t get involved too much in the latter stages (possibly looking for a spot).

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Quote from: duke3016 on March 12, 2009, 22:43:57 PM

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1. his range was HUGE (I think)
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How does, "His range was huge"

fit in with

button - stepped back - possibly looking for a spot

???
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2009, 23:21:47 PM »
can make argument for both call and fold here - JTs is 40% at worst so long as it"s not dominated..... my fear would be though that I could be up against and AJ type of hand. I would probably fold - don"t want to be calling for half my stack with JT.... woould be more than happy to shove with it though.
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2009, 00:03:00 AM »
Snap fold for me
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2009, 02:02:20 AM »
Has to be a fold. Gap Concept anyone ??!!
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Re: Routine question
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2009, 08:38:48 AM »
Quote from: BOINGBLITZ on March 13, 2009, 02:02:20 AM

Has to be a fold. Gap Concept anyone ??!!


that"s just so normal and boring...... JT is such a pretty hand, and they were sooooooted!!!!

Awake now - what was I thinking of.... of course I would never call with JTs for so many chips!! (eh? APAT Walsall? Did I really?)

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Re: Routine question
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2009, 08:40:06 AM »
with 8000 chips he has an "m" of 5-6 so while not imperrilled he needs to make a move at some point however hes also got the luxuary of a bit of breathing space with which to push so id probably fold

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