I thought this was a great hand to analyze from Barrys perspective on the turn as i could not honestly think why he folded..
His pre-flop raise imo with so many loose calls up to now was a tad small - 2900/3000 to go for a opener would be better [then keep that my std raise until if at all the table calms down although unlikely with so many loose players being deep stacked
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I agree with the c-bet and yes it does smell over pair but taking a check call line is way to spewy/weak and i would want to define my hand.
The c-bet is important here as any 3 way action now [with so many callers pre]such as call then re-raise or vice versa or even just 2 calls or more , pretty much means someone likely has a deuce or TT for a boat.
Barry gets re-raised by Durr - the way my logic works here [may be sick] is discount TT [why rr with so many yet to act behind and also i"d expect someone like Durr to of re-raised TT pre-flop again given his position with 6 left to act behind] he could have a deuce,trying to find out if his ten is good or he is bluffing.
Now the sick part for Barry - Peter calls the re-raise in the small blind,he has seen a bet and a re-raise and smooth calls oop - TT or a deuce
What is Barry to do? personally i"d fold now after Peters call but Barry calls to see a turn card... [ok ish take a flyer see if i can hit an ace]
The interesting part of the hand the turn card 7 and seeing 2 players check to him Durr fires out 100k into a 130k pot and Peter folds very quickly..
Ok now for my sick logic - i"ve discounted Durr from having TT and i"m still of that opinion. Peter must of folded a weak deuce fearing Durr has a deuce/better kicker or maybe tens and does not want to lose 500k.
Now that i"m pretty sure Peter has folded a deuce that makes it more unlikely Durr has one.
So why fire out big on the turn - 2 players have just shown weakness/or possible loss of interest in the hand by checking to him.He is more than likely putting Barry on a over pair and is using his ten to discount Peter from having TT and the check by Peter is good enough reason for Durr to bet big and possibly knock him off a weak deuce and Eastgate for some reason believes him...
This idea that Durr has used a Ten in his hand to discount Peter from having TT is the crucial part of my logic here. I"d be damn sure Durr
does not have TT,but why after Peters call on the flop is he betting so big and seemingly discounting the chance of Peter having it [TT flopped boat],Durr most likely/has to have a ten in his hand,it fits in with his re-raise to find out where he was at and Peters call blows any chance of him repping a deuce to Barry imo so when Peter checks the turn Durr just sees this as a opportunity to bluff Peter off his weak deuce and sees Barrys check as a signal of giving up on his hand.
Sorry about trying to put my thinking process in writing
but basically it is -
I know you have not got TT but why do you think i have not got it therefore you must have a Ten to even think about dismissing it from my range.
The fact Peter called the re-raise on flop made his range very narrow it was either a deuce or Tens full.So Durrs big bet on the turn would pretty much of swung me in me thinking that he had to have a ten to make that move...
does my logic make sense to anyone else lol lol
anyhows with Barrys hand/stack and the pot size on the turn , hand on heart if i"d been him with his bankroll i would of gone all in.
edit -
This hand intrigues me having followed the debate on 2+2..I think you have to put yourself in Durrs and Peters position and play out all the possibilitys in your head and see what makes sense.
Having read 2+2 and listened to Barrys views now,even he thought afterwards about Durr having a single ten but Peters fold [quick] on the turn threw him.
Some suggested that Peter could of had called with AT or an over pair on the flop.
Meh i do not think so,having seen a lead by Barry and a re-raise by Durr would Eastgate smooth AT or JJ say oop to see what happens on the turn? somehow i do not think so [he is not that bad] even if Peter thinks Durr is bluffing or has a ten Barrys lead still says big pair and Eastgates position in the hand makes it extremely unlikely in my mind that he will call to bluff on later streets..No matter how much i think , i still cannot see Peter calling with anything less than a deuce.[FITS IN WITH HIS STYLE]
So i"m back to why did Barry put Durr on a deuce?
someone please offer an explanation......i"m gonna stop thinking this one through lol lol