Break Even Percentages

[smileriraq]

Guys im trying to find out some quizzes so I can work out BEP (Break Even Percentages)  Ive tried doing in game maths online but its tough given online games dont give you a lot of time to respond (understandable)

Anyone know any quiz sites where i can test my mental maths

btw Yes I know I could use a calculator but trying to do it in my head so when i get to live games i dont have to take my shoes and socks off

[noble1]

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=gordon_phil&id=2195168

met help a bit or at least get you thinking  

just remember though the 2 and 4 rule , thats ok for live if want to work out your chances of improving on the fly..

multiply your outs by 2 if you are only going to see the turn  [anything over 8 outs you should minus 1 from the total]

eg- 10 outs   10x2 -1 [above 8 outs] =19% chance of improving

If you intend to see the turn and river then multiply your outs by 4 and add 1 and that will give you a near enough idea of your percentage to improve

If you want to improve how you view maths in poker then reading about sage will be helpful as well as improving your end game in mtts heads up...

http://www.cardplayer.com/author/article/all/41/6891

hope this helps a little..
regards
noble1

[lukybugur]

http://www.cardplayer.com/author/article/all/41/6891

hope this helps a little..

Helps give me a throbbing sore head ...  

[AMRN]

so lets gets this straight.....

(((BEP+2B+B/P/100) * short stack) * number of dots on card / number of freckles on left hand) = sore head and trip to the bar needed. This odds malarky is easy. Mine"s a beer!!

[noble1]

http://www.cardplayer.com/author/article/all/41/6891

hope this helps a little..

Helps give me a throbbing sore head ...  

lmao , but it will help change your outlook towards heads up play/approach to looking at situations+players..good to know
what strategies others might/or not apply..

[lukybugur]

lmao , but it will help change your outlook towards heads up play/approach to looking at situations+players

No it won"t .. cos I don"t feckin understand it!

[Chipaccrual]

lmao , but it will help change your outlook towards heads up play/approach to looking at situations+players

No it won"t .. cos I don"t feckin understand it!

[noble1]

[mal666]

please note the calling charts only work against opponents who are Nash/Sage proficient.
The shoves are all good. (better against non Nash/Sage opps)

[lukybugur]

... its all about putting people on ranges of hands, or guess

Now you"re talking my language!

Interesting that you direct us to the Gigabet Theory - he is one SIK Puppy!

The article is basically about ...

Basically, I had made a -ev call because I had felt that the positive ev I would gain later in the game, if I win the hand, outweighs the negative ev of the specific hand

I do this all the time - some of the time I don"t last enough to gain this +EV status tho and just end up looking like a donk

I jest (kind of) but these really are great articles to read and learn. WP and thanks oh Noble1!

[UKChamp]

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=gordon_phil&id=2195168

met help a bit or at least get you thinking  

just remember though the 2 and 4 rule , thats ok for live if want to work out your chances of improving on the fly..

multiply your outs by 2 if you are only going to see the turn  [anything over 8 outs you should minus 1 from the total]

eg- 10 outs   10x2 -1 [above 8 outs] =19% chance of improving

If you intend to see the turn and river then multiply your outs by 4 and add 1 and that will give you a near enough idea of your percentage to improve

If you want to improve how you view maths in poker then reading about sage will be helpful as well as improving your end game in mtts heads up...

http://www.cardplayer.com/author/article/all/41/6891

hope this helps a little..
regards
noble1

good find, awesome article

hadnt come accross SAGE before

[noble1]

please note the calling charts only work against opponents who are Nash/Sage proficient.
The shoves are all good. (better against non Nash/Sage opps)

incorrect...

... its all about putting people on ranges of hands, or guess

Now you"re talking my language!

Interesting that you direct us to the Gigabet Theory - he is one SIK Puppy!

One of the sickest....what did you think to his theory?  ..I meant to post his outlook on game theory but accidentally have put in the same thread twice [sorry] the reason i put this forward met mean something when you look at my post in strategy on Tags oop after checking the turn...

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=tourn&Number=4286167&Searchpage=4&Main=4275684&Words=Gigabet&topic=&Search=true#Post4286167


edit - the 2 threads are ok , i got that many windows open trying to find my bookmarks i got myself mixed up lol lol note to self ""index my bookmarks better""....so all 3 are ok ........ cool  

[RioRodent]

met MIGHT

[noble1]

met MIGHT

lol lol checking my spelling - met - Past tense and past participle of meet  

u new wot i ment  

ty rio  

[smileriraq]

cheers guys food for thought

I use the rule of 2&4 regularly and comfortable with pot odds was just trying to move up a level as i seem to have plateaued of late (only breaking even over the last 6 weeks)so taking a break and trying to improve my game and hopefully come back refreshed