too agressive?

[treydj]

hi all,

last 100 players - 36 get paid - i am in the top 30 ish.
Villain has lucked a few pots i.e JJ V KK and AQ V AK and has a massive stack - raising ever hand.
I have managed to hold my own against him and have a good read as to where i am at with him. 

Initially my call oop with such a low starting hand is pretty loose even by my standards - but i thought if the flop comes low or connected i would bluff at it or at least call a c bet and see what he does on the turn

whats your play

$12,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (94783194), Table 15 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:37:51 ET - 2009/06/11
Seat 1: nofold (2,485)
Seat 2: P0KERPR0 (21,417)
Seat 3: totalpants (18,716)
Seat 4: greenerbels1 (48,101)
Seat 5: EXSCAPE4ME (2,985)
Seat 6: bpads10 (12,194)
P0KERPR0 posts the small blind of 100
totalpants posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to totalpants [ ]
greenerbels1 raises to 500
EXSCAPE4ME folds
bpads10 folds
nofold folds
P0KERPR0 folds
totalpants calls 300
*** FLOP *** [ ]
totalpants checks
greenerbels1 bets 675
totalpants has 15 seconds left to act
totalpants raises to 1,666
greenerbels1 raises to 5,000

[George2Loose]

Shove with one hand in the air

[lukybugur]

As he"s been raising every hand, you want to milk him into doubling you up. With an AA / KK / AK type hand this could be a good spot to get him to do that on the flop. On such a raggedy a$$ board, his range is a LOT wider than this - he"d prob be willing to shove / call shoves with AK, 66-AA assuming he"s well ahead of anything you"d call a PFR with. If he has one of the 4 hands that have you beat (A3, 22, 44 or 55 - 36 v unlikely), so be it.

I would prob just call him here and hope he leads out for a decent amount of the turn - I"m betting out / raising regardless.

[deanp27]

i"d prolly fold pre but now get it allllll in

[Roscopiko]

Not aggressive enough imo.

If you want to play back at him here I reraise to give you more ways to win the pot and disguise your hand.

From here I"m playing for stacks and shipping

[AMRN]

too aggressive? serious?

ALL  INNNNNN

[Marty719]

Shove with one hand in the air

Shove with both hands and both ur feet in the air - not even an option.

[AMRN]

Shove with one hand in the air

Shove with both hands and both ur feet in the air - not even an option.

good point, but might be difficult if you have a laptop on your knee

[Marty719]

Shove with one hand in the air

Shove with both hands and both ur feet in the air - not even an option.

good point, but might be difficult if you have a laptop on your knee

Thats where Ive been gng wrong!!

[Honeybadg]

hi all,

last 100 players - 36 get paid - i am in the top 30 ish.
Villain has lucked a few pots i.e JJ V KK and AQ V AK and has a massive stack - raising ever hand.
I have managed to hold my own against him and have a good read as to where i am at with him. 

Initially my call oop with such a low starting hand is pretty loose even by my standards - but i thought if the flop comes low or connected i would bluff at it or at least call a c bet and see what he does on the turn

whats your play

$12,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (94783194), Table 15 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:37:51 ET - 2009/06/11
Seat 1: nofold (2,485)
Seat 2: P0KERPR0 (21,417)
Seat 3: totalpants (18,716)
Seat 4: greenerbels1 (48,101)
Seat 5: EXSCAPE4ME (2,985)
Seat 6: bpads10 (12,194)
P0KERPR0 posts the small blind of 100
totalpants posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to totalpants [ ]
greenerbels1 raises to 500
EXSCAPE4ME folds
bpads10 folds
nofold folds
P0KERPR0 folds
totalpants calls 300
*** FLOP *** [ ]
totalpants checks
greenerbels1 bets 675
totalpants has 15 seconds left to act
totalpants raises to 1,666
greenerbels1 raises to 5,000

Just call him at 675 ... or fold at 5000 ... choose a better spot ... he is going to do the same when you actually have a hand.

L

[treydj]

thanks again for the input guys - as you will see from the reveal i kinda get coolered.
one question - how do you think the big stack played this hand? - i think he played it pretty poorly imo.


$12,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (94783194), Table 15 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:37:51 ET - 2009/06/11
Seat 1: nofold (2,485)
Seat 2: P0KERPR0 (21,417)
Seat 3: totalpants (18,716)
Seat 4: greenerbels1 (48,101)
Seat 5: EXSCAPE4ME (2,985)
Seat 6: bpads10 (12,194)
P0KERPR0 posts the small blind of 100
totalpants posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to totalpants [ ]
greenerbels1 raises to 500
EXSCAPE4ME folds
bpads10 folds
nofold folds
P0KERPR0 folds
totalpants calls 300
*** FLOP *** [ ]
totalpants checks
greenerbels1 bets 675
totalpants has 15 seconds left to act
totalpants raises to 1,666
greenerbels1 raises to 5,000
totalpants raises to 18,216, and is all in
greenerbels1 has 15 seconds left to act
greenerbels1 calls 13,216
totalpants shows [ ]
greenerbels1 shows [ ]
*** TURN *** [ ] []
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
totalpants shows two pair, Fives and Fours
greenerbels1 shows a straight, Eight high
greenerbels1 wins the pot (37,532) with a straight, Eight high
totalpants stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 37,532 | Rake 0
Board: [ ]
Seat 1: nofold (button) didn"t bet (folded)
Seat 2: P0KERPR0 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: totalpants (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Fives and Fours
Seat 4: greenerbels1 showed [ ] and won (37,532) with a straight, Eight high
Seat 5: EXSCAPE4ME didn"t bet (folded)
Seat 6: bpads10 didn"t bet (folded)

pfffff

[AMRN]

Just call him at 675 ... or fold at 5000 ... choose a better spot ... he is going to do the same when you actually have a hand.

L

Louis - surely top two pair is a pretty decent hand in this spot? Why would you fold and wait til you "actually have a hand"..... top two against a LAG is massive in my book.

[AMRN]

cant be results oriented - you made the perfect play, and had him dominated when he put his chips in. he caught runner runner - suck it up and move on.

[deanp27]

lol was gonna say he has -Js

stop being results orientated - just a bad beat.

there is no way that you aren"t getting it in here after calling with 54o

[Mikeyboy9361]

You were coolered, i woulda played it slightly different, but would still have ended up with it all in on the turn. And he way over played his hand, you can see his thinking, but then you could have been calling with any two (which you pretty much were) from the BB, so he shoulda smelt a rat.