Poker Software

[SirPercival]

What, if any, poker tools (Trackers, Aides, Calculators, and Assistants etc) do APAT members use?

I have been thinking about getting 1 of these but am unsure which to use as there are so many out there. I want it to work with BSQ as we are going to be playing there now.

Also, any views on whether they should be used at all!!

[Hibbe]

I just look at Official poker rankings, after all you dont have a tracker when you play live so I dont think you should be able to use them online.

[RioRodent]

I think you"ll find PokerTracker is by far the most popular. And if used to analyse your play regularly it is an invaluable tool.

For cash game play, couple it with GameTime+. This gives an overlay on the game window, which can be customised. Out of the box it will display %hands played, %pre-flop raises, BB won/lost, total hands in dbase for each player at the table.

As to the rights or wrongs... I have no opinion other than it"s no good taking the moral high ground and sticking you head in the sand... you can be sure that 90% of you opponents have this info at their fingertips, using it just levels the playing field.

[WiseOwl]

I can recommend Poker Office.  I agree with Rio regarding the use of such tools during  play but if you are not comfortable, then just use it when you are not playing to analyse and improve your game.  

[SirPercival]

Well up until now I haven"t taken my online game too seriously. I much prefer live.
I was hoping that this software would help my game in the long term, both live and online.

I"m more interested in the results over a period rather that the stats you get at the table because you don"t get these given to you in a live game.

[SirPercival]

Does Poker Office work with BlueSquare??

[WiseOwl]

Does Poker Office work with BlueSquare??

I"ve not played on BlueSquare myself so cannot give a personal confirmation.  The Poker Office web-site says that it works on the iPoker network.  If I play in one of the on-line qualifiers on Sun/Mon, I can check it out then and let you know.

[kinboshi]

Yes it works on BlueSQ (for cash anyway, not tried it for tourneys).

As for the fact you don"t get the stats in a live game so you don"t want them online - I"d say they"re different beasts.  Also, if your opposition use them, then you"re putting yourself at a disadvantage.  Particularly useful if you"re multi-tabling.

[Geo]

Yes it works on BlueSQ (for cash anyway, not tried it for tourneys).

As for the fact you don"t get the stats in a live game so you don"t want them online - I"d say they"re different beasts.  Also, if your opposition use them, then you"re putting yourself at a disadvantage.  Particularly useful if you"re multi-tabling.

Next you"ll be saying let all sportsmen take any performance enhancements they want........makes it a level playing field.  

Best see if I can get EPO done before the BB footie.

Also we should hear no more complaints about angle shooting

Geo

[jjandellis]

I have been considering getting one of these programmes myself. My qualms are not about the moral implications - as, like already stated, you are simply levelling the playing field.

My main concern is the impact that it would have on your live game play i.e. would you suddenly field exposed/helpless without the aid of HUDs/overlays/stats etc etc.

I know that ICM is the big thing at the moment during end game play. I am also aware that these programmes pretty much put you onto auto pilot for this phase of a game/tournament. In which case, when you are using the programme do you gradually get a feel for what the right plays are? Also, once you have acquired this "feel" for endgame play, does it seep into your live play and help you with your decision making process (even without you having the pc with you)??

[kinboshi]

Yes it works on BlueSQ (for cash anyway, not tried it for tourneys).

As for the fact you don"t get the stats in a live game so you don"t want them online - I"d say they"re different beasts.  Also, if your opposition use them, then you"re putting yourself at a disadvantage.  Particularly useful if you"re multi-tabling.

Next you"ll be saying let all sportsmen take any performance enhancements they want........makes it a level playing field.  

Best see if I can get EPO done before the BB footie.

Also we should hear no more complaints about angle shooting

Geo

A completely different thing.  Performance-enhancing drugs are banned in sports.  PokerTracker isn"t banned by the poker rooms.  Therefore it"s legal and a legitimate tool to use.

You"re putting yourself at a disadvantage if you don"t use them - but it"s not cheating.  Collusion would be more analogous to drug taking in sport.

[Geo]

Yes it works on BlueSQ (for cash anyway, not tried it for tourneys).

As for the fact you don"t get the stats in a live game so you don"t want them online - I"d say they"re different beasts.  Also, if your opposition use them, then you"re putting yourself at a disadvantage.  Particularly useful if you"re multi-tabling.

Next you"ll be saying let all sportsmen take any performance enhancements they want........makes it a level playing field.  

Best see if I can get EPO done before the BB footie.

Also we should hear no more complaints about angle shooting

Geo

A completely different thing.  Performance-enhancing drugs are banned in sports.  PokerTracker isn"t banned by the poker rooms.  Therefore it"s legal and a legitimate tool to use.

my post was more tongue in cheek, however:

Couldn"t see the poker rooms being able to ban them anyway, how could they monitor it? So doesn"t really come into it.

You"re putting yourself at a disadvantage if you don"t use them - but it"s not cheating.  Collusion would be more analogous to drug taking in sport.

So therefore it is performance enhancement. It doesn"t worry me that people have it, may invest myself purely because it isn"t/can"t be banned. if the poker rooms did ask players not to use it would you bin it?

[WiseOwl]

Does Poker Office work with BlueSquare??

I"ve not played on BlueSquare myself so cannot give a personal confirmation.  The Poker Office web-site says that it works on the iPoker network.  If I play in one of the on-line qualifiers on Sun/Mon, I can check it out then and let you know.

Yes, it works fine with tournies on Blue Square

[SirPercival]

I understand you can get poker office for free through one of the promotions but apparantly you have you have to pay after 1 year.

Is it worth it?

[UKChamp]

For the relative few dollars that PokerTracker and Poker Ace Head-UP overlay is. I would only ever suggest these two combined. Office is a watered down version of the above imo.

The money it can make you is worth it, no doubt at all!