What Day Should Online Series Games Be Played On?

[kinboshi]

Also the live events have a bigger buy-in and take longer (i.e. a whole weekend).  

[Des_D]

Also the live events have a bigger buy-in and take longer (i.e. a whole weekend). 

The physical effort required for a two day event is a very valid point. The buy in I would be less concerned with as the rewards are a great deal higher live.  

[kinboshi]

Also the live events have a bigger buy-in and take longer (i.e. a whole weekend). 

The physical effort required for a two day event is a very valid point. The buy in I would be less concerned with as the rewards are a great deal higher live. 

Fair enough, but in addition to the buy-in, a live event that is any distance from where  someone lives (which will be most of them, obviously ), and that has the obvious expenses to go alongside the buy-in.  Would £200 an event sound reasonable?  If it is and someone plays 5 events - that"s £1,000.  Significantly higher than the expense of playing the online events.  But of course, the rewards are greater too.

[nosey-p]

haveing 1 - 18 for live and 1 - 9 for on-line gives the edge to the experienced live player. i belive the points should be the same,  as its hard to get a seat at a live event so people are not given the chance to get 18 points but we are all invited to play on-line

the split games seems a good idea

we should leave the buy in the same, don"t forget this is an amature game and all though £75 is excelant value it is still out of reach for some people

[FlyingPig73]

At first I thought it was outweighed in favour of the live events, but after playing in the live events, I have to agree with Des and the way he has structured the tournaments and weighting....

The live events are 2 days long of arduous, endurance poker, and the points awarded should be more than the online events...

As for there being 18 points for 1st in the live events and, it has been said that this gives the experienced live player an advantage, it doesn"t... There are only 7 live events; which equal 7 x 18 -- a total of 126 points for 7 1st places, as opposed to online,, 33 x 9 --- a total of 297 for online 1st places...

This seems to suggest that it is in favour of the online experienced player...

As for £75 for the entry fee to live events, IMHO this is the best value for money tournament in the UK at the moment....The added value in the of the EPT and WSOP seats are amazing.....This is taking into account the strucure as well... If you are lucky (in my case) you get to play 2 days of poker with the chance of winning an amazing prize, and this is all for £75..


There are ways to improve everything, and this is getting right to what the members want... Personally, I would like to see more live events.... But this is upto Des, the team and the sponsors....

[nosey-p]

the reason for the same points for both is that we all can play on-line

[ThinkerJE]

With the debate about the merits of live vs online play, is there a case for 2 APAT series in season 2?  Points earned in the live events would count towards the live event table and online points would count towards the online table.  Two champions at the end of the year, who could then play heads up for the overall title.

[FlyingPig73]

the reason for the same points for both is that we all can play on-line

This is not 100% true... You do not have to have access to a PC to be a member of the APAT...

In fact,,,, my dad will join season 2, but he will not have access to a PC..

[technolog]

Saturday"s fine but I"m happy to alternate Sat/Sun so long as Sunday tourneys start at about 6pm (as I"ll almost certainly make the final table :whisltes nonchalantly: and don"t want to be too late to bed before work.

[coprey]

With the debate about the merits of live vs online play, is there a case for 2 APAT series in season 2?  Points earned in the live events would count towards the live event table and online points would count towards the online table.  Two champions at the end of the year, who could then play heads up for the overall title.

Yes, but would they be asked to play on-line or live? or one of each etc etc.

[FlyingPig73]

With the debate about the merits of live vs online play, is there a case for 2 APAT series in season 2?  Points earned in the live events would count towards the live event table and online points would count towards the online table.  Two champions at the end of the year, who could then play heads up for the overall title.

Yes, but would they be asked to play on-line or live? or one of each etc etc.

Good point

[coprey]

I think its as difficult to win an on-line event as it is a live one. All 150-200 players are playing within the same enviroment and the competition is tough.

I agree with previous coments that live events require more effort to attend and require more stamina, and are more expensive, but the rewards are also very attractive. The added EPT package for the winner plus £3,000. I think the live event is currently a much more attractive proposition, and the double ranking points adds to this.

The way things are at present I would not be surprised to find a Live event winner, also winning the overall series and winning an EPT seat as well as a Carribean package.

I would therefore be in favour of a similar points structure for both live and on-line events.

Of course im biased because I live further away, have some family commitments and find it difficult to travel.

[hi_am_chris]

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Again im another who would prefer sundays, theres so many tournaments online on a sunday which means a lot of players will be on anyway, would prefer to do other thing on a saturday

[kinboshi]

How about an additional online tourney each month (or every two months) that has a bigger buy-in and double or bonus points?

[Jon MW]

Given the ethos of APAT means that it would be reasonable to expect that the majority of members have got a proper job then I think this should indicate that either Friday or Saturdays are the nights where the most people will be able to participate.

Saturday night not being convenient for social reasons is different in that you can choose not to do it, but you can"t choose not to go into work (not on a regular basis anyway, they might start getting suspicious).

If people want to enter every APAT event and want to earn the most points then that is a choice that should be made. If they look on it as more of a social, occasional online poker tournament then only entering once a month or so leaves plenty of times for other things. But if they can"t ever set aside any Saturday night for an APAT event, then clearly it"s just not that important to them. Whichever of these options is true I don"t see any reason to change what is currently a winning formula.