AA lay down

[StuartHopkin]

Im confused, we have an ace? and another ace? and were doing what pre flop?

[K3vl4rUK]

Im confused, we have an ace? and another ace? and were doing what pre flop?

slow rolling before shoving ofc.

[deanp27]

lolwat

[WYoung83]

there are at least 2 top pros out there who would fold aces early on in the main event. They are Hellmuth and matasow.

They both know that you cant win a marathon tourney during the first level, but you can defenitly loose it. And they play far superior to all their opponents post flop that, they earn more chips when the blinds are higher in the later stadges without taking huge all in risks.

Having said all that, i would never fold aces pre flop at any stadge of a big tourey.  

[K3vl4rUK]

there are at least 2 top pros out there who would fold aces early on in the main event. They are Hellmuth and matasow.

They both know that you cant win a marathon tourney during the first level, but you can defenitly loose it. And they play far superior to all their opponents post flop that, they earn more chips when the blinds are higher in the later stadges without taking huge all in risks. Having said all that, i would never fold aces pre flop at any stadge of a big tourey.

What he said.

Watch the 2009 ME coverage you see Matusow fold  qs js with a 3 spade flop incase the guy has  :as: in his hand which he did.

[LongshanksED]

 with the matasow. It looked like the mouth of old an was getting outdrawn and badbeated left right and centre

I"m sure the guy only had one spade (the ace) but it was only the river. Tough laydown by mike and I don"t think I couldve did it at that stage. When he bluffed to win a pot after being beaten down all day was good though

[evilpie]

I"ve laid down AA on two occasions - both times to 4 all ins (stupid wild games) after I"d raised.

Both times I would have lost - once to trip Q"s and the second to a straight.

Like has already been said, it depends on the situation.....

No offence intended but if you fold AA here you really shouldn"t be playing stupid wild games.

The reason to play stupid wild games is so that you can get loads of money in the middle with the best hand.

You get it and then you pass.

Durrrrrr......

[pables]

Durrrrrr...... would call obviously!

Is that what you meant?  

[evilpie]

Durrrrrr...... would call obviously!

Is that what you meant?  

I deliberately put in a few extra rrrrrr"s to avoid confusion  

But yes I"m sure he would.

[sopranoltd]

Durrrrrr...... would call obviously!

Is that what you meant?  

I deliberately put in a few extra rrrrrr"s to avoid confusion  

But yes I"m sure he would.

Tom Dwan ( durrrr ) would of called that with J-Q suited if he had implied odds ...... He did it once and he"d do it again .  

[noble1]

how many of you could find a fold here ?


PokerStars Game #32581229495: Tournament #200909011, $500+$30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXII (12500/25000) - 2009/09/07 19:29:31 PT [2009/09/07 22:29:31 ET]
Table "200909011 355" 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bastinho06 (543504 in chips)
Seat 2: tremendez (1888930 in chips)
Seat 3: theNorfman (2444988 in chips)
Seat 4: Forza Parma (977404 in chips)
Seat 5: RaineTech (924790 in chips)
Seat 8: Aguskb (2641854 in chips)
Seat 9: 99NvrLosez (3519245 in chips)
bastinho06: posts the ante 3125
tremendez: posts the ante 3125
theNorfman: posts the ante 3125
Forza Parma: posts the ante 3125
RaineTech: posts the ante 3125
Aguskb: posts the ante 3125
99NvrLosez: posts the ante 3125
tremendez: posts small blind 12500
theNorfman: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Aguskb [ ad ac]
Forza Parma: folds
RaineTech: folds
Aguskb: raises 34610 to 59610
99NvrLosez: folds
bastinho06: folds
tremendez: folds
theNorfman: calls 34610
*** FLOP *** [ kc ]
theNorfman: checks
Aguskb: checks
*** TURN *** [ kc ] []
theNorfman: bets 66000
Aguskb: raises 96915 to 162915
theNorfman: calls 96915
*** RIVER *** [ kc ] [ :as:]
theNorfman: bets 169000
Aguskb: raises 335290 to 504290
theNorfman: raises 1715048 to 2219338 and is all-in
bastinho06 is sitting out
bastinho06 is connected
bastinho06 has returned
Aguskb: folds
Uncalled bet (1715048) returned to theNorfman
theNorfman collected 1488005 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1488005 | Rake 0
Board [ kc  :as:]
Seat 1: bastinho06 (button) folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 2: tremendez (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: theNorfman (big blind) collected (1488005)
Seat 4: Forza Parma folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 5: RaineTech folded before Flop (didn"t bet)
Seat 8: Aguskb folded on the River
Seat 9: 99NvrLosez folded before Flop (didn"t bet)

[Swinebag]

worried about quads (betting fits the pattern) but cant lay down there.

[LongshanksED]

Never folding here

sure the guy could have quads but doubt he"d re reraise all in

If you suspect he has quads then I"d just flat call the bet on the river

I"d put the villian on holding ace king and he thinks his full house is better than yours with a pocket pair  

[Mikeyboy9361]

Sorry can"t fold here, ever, ever, ever. If he has the 8,well thats.........

[Marty719]

Open fold the flop.......................................................................................

p.s. no way can u ever fold here