Scouse and APAT live events do they mix???

[scouse3465]

I have received a ban for the rest of the season for my exploits at DTD. I am not commenting on my opinions on this with respect to Des and the team. I am definately not suited to play at DTD and will be highley unlikely i ever go there. To be honest i was unimpressed by the place , mistakes made over the 2 days ie cards being mucked by dealer , tables on different blind levels when hand for hand , play delayed when hand for hand c os tourney director aint noticed then give me verbal when i pointed it out! and a few other things. But thats the past now!
I can play sober or drunk and am loud sober or drunk and the fun vampires like to complain when i am drunk. I dont complain when i am sat next to someone who doesnt say a word and answers questions with 1 word answers making the table boring and uniteresting. Anyway i dont particually care and aint going to write a long thread and i could go on for pages with my opinion!
I would just like to know if the APAT members want me there . And no sit on the fence answers if you stay sober yes!
Say whatever you like i wont take offence and i will not reply to this thread .
I do enjoy the APAT events but will abstain from all future live events if that is the majority opinion.
Cheers in advance and there is a drink in it for all that support me !! (joke by the way )

[Jon MW]

Have you been drinking this afternoon?

[Mikeyboy9361]

Hi Scouse, now then fella I don"t know you that well, but have always got on well when playing on line. I do remember one event, I think it was this year when you were particularly loud, watching those dirty reds play  . Loud doesn"t bother me, but bad language in mixed company does (call me old fashioned). So I am going to sit on the fence and say I would welcome you back with open arms if you toned down the language, I really enjoy playing with characters, and that is what makes APAT events good fun.
I don"t know what you did to over step the mark, and I am not really bothered, but there have to be certain standards of behaviour in Casinos as in all walks of life, so really the question is for you, are you able to stay within the expected boundaries? If so, see ya next year  

[Dewi_cool]

you can drink as much as you like & swear at me all day as far as I"m concerned, the more fish playing the better

[bigalhx3]

im only ever going to play poker in dtd if your are never going in again   i just cant do with people at the table having  a beer and talking its just not on  

see you at the bar for my beer

[daveyb147]

difficult to comment m8 without knowing the full details.
Always enjoyed the banter with you online,,,nothing wrong with being loud,,nothing wrong with being quiet,,,could hear you on the saturday and dont think you would get a job in a library but didnt see anything out of order,,,,
If i was you and i had done the crime,,id do the time lol
Hope to see you at future events m8

[deanp27]

not played an APAT live event for a while so can"t comment on the specific circumstances as i wasn"t there. But from what i have read it has happened more than once, so isn"t just an isolated incident - correct me if i am wrong or out of order.

I am pretty sure that Des and the APAT administrators would not have taken the steps of banning someone lightly so should be respected. Therefore I think the most mature thing you can do is take on board what has been said and the reasons given for your exclusion, accept it and come back (if you wish) once the ban expires. Take it on the chin and react positively.

I am not sure what this thread is meant to achieve, of course people are going to come on and support you and say it doesn"t matter etc, whereas those uncomfortable with your behaviour are less likely to do so.

As for the criticism of DTD, good luck in finding a venue that runs poker tournaments better outside of Las Vegas. I think 99% of poker players would agree that DTD is the premier venue in the UK for all sorts of reasons.

FWIW this isn"t a personal attack or anything, it is just the way i see it and you did ask for opinions.

[George2Loose]

Think you"re the only one with that view on DTD bud. Dunno about your exploits and understand you"re there to enjoy yourself but I can see how your behaviour can be percieved to be against the APAT ethic.

But I"m with Dewi- I want the value at APAT

[WASP]

im only ever going to play poker in dtd if your are never going in again   i just cant do with people at the table having  a beer and talking its just not on  

see you at the bar for my beer

+1

See you on Saturday Alan, we can enjoy ourselves now scouse isn"t coming  

[Cyntaf]

Steve, take your medicine and i really hope to see you at the next live event that you are allowed to play in.

I"m no kiss arse, but i would really miss your company mate. As i"ve stated before, Apat would be worse off without all the different characters that make these events what they are. If people can play with the likes of Mike the mouth and phil hellmuth, then you"re just a *****cat.....Baby!!!!!!

The only question here really is, do you want to play any more live events? I think you probably do, and i also think you should, hell you might even win one, then mine would be a double, followed by a chaser capped off with a bottle of red, ok
see you soon

Paul

P.S. I want some of that fishmoney, the lads are talking of

The long description of a very mild cat, as Tom Jones asked, "What"s new *****cat? whoa.........oh"

[coprey]

Hi Steve

I think there are many who would like to support you, including me. The question is what are we supporting? The drinking, the loudness, abusing other players? I have not had the pleasure or misfortune (depending on your viewpoint) to share a table with you at a live APAT event, so I dont really have first hand experience of the behaviour in question, although its always obvious to everyone when you are in the casino. You say you dont care, I think you care very much and I am disapponted that you cannot tone things down a little in consideration for APAT's wishes and those other players, boring or not, who we are trying to encourage to play APAT events. Many of these players are new to the game and we want them to have a positive experience. Am I sitting on the fence? Perhaps I am a bit, however there is a rich array of characters involved with APAT, please dont fall into the trap of thinking you are worth special consideration and that APAT will suffer as a result of you not playing in future. I hope you do decide to play future APAT events and receive no further bans.

Best wishes

Col

[BOINGBLITZ]

I had my first live experience of playing against Scouse at DTD in the Virgin Festival and I believe he got 3 warnings that day.......including one for standing up !!
 I know that he has had some bad experiences there and so I can understand his dislike of the place because you can only take as you find.
 As for the ban, well......playing with this guy certainly gets you talking about him......you don"t forget him quickly, that"s for sure !!
 But a ban ??......well if there was any threats made then yes, I would agree with a ban. But players being loud is surely part of the game for some people and it certainly is for Steve. To me, his talking, etc... is just part of his game as much as some of us like to wear sunglasses and a hat.
 If he made no threats to anyone that day, then to ban him seems very harsh.
 Personally, I have no problem with the guy and his loss means one less character at the tables. He is also a good player IMO.......Hmmm......thinking about it........BAN HIM FOR LIFE !!!!!

[Honeybadg]

I would be keen for you to play in more APAT events.

First three hours or so (that I was on your table) at DTD you added a lot in terms of banter/humour.

Table was pretty aggressive which is what the APAT needs.

The infamous AA showboat - mucked cards hand - had two players left in the hand - and your actions interferred with the rest of the play (I was not in the hand). After this was drawn to your attention your apologised - fair play - but other people"s tournament shouldn"t be affected by you looking to state your case and argue with the Tournament director (at length).

Summary - he ruled your hand mucked - and suggested you used a card protector.

Next 30 mins - the whole saga was pretty drawn out again affecting others mainly via boredom.

After which the game returned to normal ... again to a good mix of tricky and creative poker ...you raised with 44 I pushed back ... you folded ... I had AA.

You raised with AK ... I pushed back with AQ ... you held ...fair play ... hands shaken ... good game.

It was a good table with a blip in the middle  ... let"s get rid of the blip.

Everyone wins.

Louis

[WarBwastardo]

All very regrettable stuff, but possibly inevitable.  I"d like to observe the passing of Scouse"s APAT experience through the medium of a baywatch montage.  Please bow your heads.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_vBZ7_iUp0[/youtube]

[WYoung83]

Yes they do mix, and mix very well. Having characters in a tourney is good, If you dont think so............ then who made the rules, and as David Brent would say "Get a new rule book"

Putting a ban is not good for APAT poker. if they take away one of the "rare characters", then it does not make the events as exciting. We are all Part time players. Not exactly playing for big or life changing money anyway,

In the pro circuits around vegas etc. They have players like Mike Matasow and Phill Hellmuth. Imagine if they were told to tone it down.............

as far as i remember, you didnt actually hurt or threaten anyone, you gave me some banter a while ago online in the sunday league, and it was great. Nothing like a bit of banter anyway.