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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #195 on: December 05, 2009, 20:20:11 PM »
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Des Duffy Will be releasing Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT) Season Four details next month.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #196 on: December 05, 2009, 20:24:40 PM »
BUT only if he can find his favourite tennis racket in time

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #197 on: December 05, 2009, 20:26:58 PM »
....Sigh.  I"m trying to get a few FB people aligned with our group there ahead of S4 hence the above.   Obviously hoping that "next month" is an appropriately big enough target.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #198 on: December 05, 2009, 21:26:14 PM »

....Sigh.  I"m trying to get a few FB people aligned with our group there ahead of S4 hence the above.   Obviously hoping that "next month" is an appropriately big enough target.


Like that makes sense -- ok in a waiting mode

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #199 on: December 07, 2009, 17:24:37 PM »
hey there! i popped my APAT cherry way back in Dublin this year for what was the 1st of some great weekends away playing poker and meeting new friends. For what my input is worth as a newbie to the tour i have a few things i would like to put forward: (in no particular order)

1) i saw on one post and havent read anything else since the query regarding satelites at the casino holding the apat tourney and thought that would be a good idea to drum up interest from the surronding area and branch out to potential new apaters. im not aware if this actually exists so ignore me if thats the case!

2) The big point i wanted to make (or more of an adding support to) is the idea of a tournament on the sunday of apat events. not only would this keep people at the casino for the whole weekend but it makes the sometimes dubious decision of booking an extra nights hotel a formality if you know you have at least that tournament to play regardless of ME performance.

3) as a quite seldom online player i wasnt too bothered regarding any apat events online (also due to registering issues with site but thats another long winded story!).
However that changed when i saw apost regarding this years online world championships with event such as seven card stud with medals to boot. I was wondering if there will be more mixed, limit and unconventional games being offered online and also intergrated into the live APAT events.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #200 on: December 08, 2009, 18:50:29 PM »
yea i tried registering on blue square but cant update my account to a real money account!!
not sure why!

APAT  you said about a facebook group, ive been looking but cant find the group on there?
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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #202 on: December 08, 2009, 21:28:46 PM »
Another +1 to bring back the Regional Qualifiers, the one at DTD on 12th April 2008 was super wicked cool. Understand if they are a pain in the ass to organise though.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #203 on: December 08, 2009, 22:44:30 PM »

the one at DTD on 12th April 2008 was super wicked cool.

I seem to remember AK v AA Andy. But, even apart from that, it sure was a really good tournament.
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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #204 on: December 09, 2009, 10:10:30 AM »

Another +1 to bring back the Regional Qualifiers, the one at DTD on 12th April 2008 was super wicked cool. Understand if they are a pain in the ass to organise though.


The regional at DTD may have been top notch (most tourneys at DTD are!), but the playing field across all the regionals was off balance. Walsall wasn"t quite as good as DTD, and I suspect that neither were many other locations. Also, I suspect DTD was dealer dealt - hence you were probably playing twice as many hands per hour as other locations.  

And then when you consider that beating a field of 80 at DTD was worth 9 ranking points, whilst beating a field of 3 men and a dog in outer reaches of nowhere was also worth 9 ranking points......

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #205 on: December 09, 2009, 10:14:25 AM »
so thats how u accrued ur lead then ?
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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #206 on: December 13, 2009, 02:52:24 AM »
Never played any of the live regionals in season 2 but it certainly seems like a good idea in theory.

Dont want to search through the site but was there "regional captains"? Seems to me that if you have someone willing to put time into it then there is no reason why this couldnt be a success.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #207 on: December 13, 2009, 11:01:47 AM »

Never played any of the live regionals in season 2 but it certainly seems like a good idea in theory.

Dont want to search through the site but was there "regional captains"? Seems to me that if you have someone willing to put time into it then there is no reason why this couldnt be a success.

PS NO I am NOT volenteering :-)


Suz,

There wasn"t "regional captains" as such because it wasn"t a team structure.  We had a regional management team that looked after these events, but there was a serious inconsistency about the games being offered by each location and added to the fact that ranking points were available for top 9, irrelevant of whether 4 turned up or 80 showed (They were capped at 80).

It"s a tough balance, they were £20 Freezeouts with a decent structure. Top 10% got seats to next national with the remaining money being distributed to top 10% also.  Some had buffets, some didn"t.  Some started on time, a lot didn"t, some card rooms supported them, other pretended they weren"t happening.

I attended the Brighton regional for that season.  The first leg we had about 25 show up and I spent time talking to the casino staff, makign sure they were aware of what we were about and that this was achieved without any advertsing or real promotion, so for the following leg, the casino manager laid on 4 dealers and extra staff based on it was going to grow.  Leg 2, we had 18 turn up and numbers never improved.

The idea is great, and lots of players would love to see them return.  It just needs to be done in a way that makes it accessible to all and with a consistent and fair level of service for all.  If everyone had a DTD on their doorstep, then it would be great.

Every time we get together to discuss plans, the "Regionals" is always high up the agenda.

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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #208 on: December 14, 2009, 02:19:19 AM »
If regionals ever did get brought back then I don"t think they should offer ranking points. I"m not actually too fussed about them coming back myself because clickfest and online sats have worked well enough this season and see no need for them. Also, to offer ranking points regardless of numbers is stupid imo, I don"t see the need in ranking points for a live satellite at all tbh, you don"t get online ranking points for the satellites there.
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Re: APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion
« Reply #209 on: December 14, 2009, 03:51:50 AM »


Never played any of the live regionals in season 2 but it certainly seems like a good idea in theory.

Dont want to search through the site but was there "regional captains"? Seems to me that if you have someone willing to put time into it then there is no reason why this couldnt be a success.

PS NO I am NOT volenteering :-)


Suz,

There wasn"t "regional captains" as such because it wasn"t a team structure.  We had a regional management team that looked after these events, but there was a serious inconsistency about the games being offered by each location and added to the fact that ranking points were available for top 9, irrelevant of whether 4 turned up or 80 showed (They were capped at 80).

It"s a tough balance, they were £20 Freezeouts with a decent structure. Top 10% got seats to next national with the remaining money being distributed to top 10% also.  Some had buffets, some didn"t.  Some started on time, a lot didn"t, some card rooms supported them, other pretended they weren"t happening.

I attended the Brighton regional for that season.  The first leg we had about 25 show up and I spent time talking to the casino staff, makign sure they were aware of what we were about and that this was achieved without any advertsing or real promotion, so for the following leg, the casino manager laid on 4 dealers and extra staff based on it was going to grow.  Leg 2, we had 18 turn up and numbers never improved.

The idea is great, and lots of players would love to see them return.  It just needs to be done in a way that makes it accessible to all and with a consistent and fair level of service for all.  If everyone had a DTD on their doorstep, then it would be great.

Every time we get together to discuss plans, the "Regionals" is always high up the agenda.


Thx for the reply Leigh, I will make a point of reading the season 2 threads in the next few days as tbh I dont know that much about it but you have pretty much outlined the problems.

I see what Connor is saying but hasnt APAT grown even more in season 3? Regionals might be more feasible now.