APAT Season Four - Pre Launch Discussion

[gianlucaragusi]

T + 2

[monkeyman]

Wow. This is well worth the wait. Brilliant stuff

[jlane1980]

Season 4 Announcement

Well played, sir. Sounds awsome!

[THEGUY84]

All I can say is I can wait!!

[mal666]

All I can say is I can`t wait!!

FYP

[THEGUY84]

lol, man i have to read what i type!!

[Glorious]

Gutted I can"t make the Welsh - one of only 2 big weekends I have to be in the office but hey ho that"s life - the efforts of Des et al are much appreciated.

Really hope 25th Sept will be APAT free!!

Damn and damn

[AVFC.WILSON]

Only 365 days until season 5 details will be published.
Or should i say..
SOON!!

[Roscopiko]

Love the idea of mini festivals over the weekends and esp main event on the sunday.

How about a cheap tourney on the sundays of the main event day 2, something cheep, crapshooty but fun like a bounty game so those who have the whole weekend can play again.

Really have no love for the regional teams thing (sorry) but cant please everyone, would prefer to play it as 1 game rather than divisions personally then chop it divisionally out from there if you must.  That would reduce the bias towards the bigger (membership wise) teams imo.

Betfair ftw imo.

Do I win a prize?

[kinboshi]

Is that it then?

[RioRodent]

This thread can be used for APAT members and management to discuss potential developments ahead of the finalisation of Season Four.  If there is something you would like to see in the new season, please make your suggestions here.

I haven"t re-read all 46 pages but I don"t believe I saw any APAT members request a Pro series, nor any APAT management person throw it in for discussion.  

APAT has a product - the £75, 2-day, deepstack amatuer tournament - for which, right from Season 1, Day 1, demand has way outstripped supply.

What I do see mentioned many times are suggestions for ways of increasing available seats at each event.

I have read Rich"s "Bigger Picture" response on a couple of threads, but I"m afraid it makes no sense to me. If you were in the business of manufacturing the ever popular "Widget", that no home can be without, and you are struggling to meet all you orders... would you then take 25% of your workforce off of widget production so that they could make the new "Doodahs" for which you have only had a couple of tentative enquiries and no firm orders... I think not!

Whilst I congratulate all at APAT for everything else that they have delivered for Season 4 and thank them for all the hard work they do on our behalf, I believe this pro series is a mistake and had it been put forward as a suggestion on this thread, pointing out that it will take 25% - 30% of the seats from all but the DTD event, that it would have received very little support.

[duncthehat]

This thread can be used for APAT members and management to discuss potential developments ahead of the finalisation of Season Four.  If there is something you would like to see in the new season, please make your suggestions here.

I haven"t re-read all 46 pages but I don"t believe I saw any APAT members request a Pro series, nor any APAT management person throw it in for discussion.  

APAT has a product - the £75, 2-day, deepstack amatuer tournament - for which, right from Season 1, Day 1, demand has way outstripped supply.

What I do see mentioned many times are suggestions for ways of increasing available seats at each event.

I have read Rich"s "Bigger Picture" response on a couple of threads, but I"m afraid it makes no sense to me. If you were in the business of manufacturing the ever popular "Widget", that no home can be without, and you are struggling to meet all you orders... would you then take 25% of your workforce off of widget production so that they could make the new "Doodahs" for which you have only had a couple of tentative enquiries and no firm orders... I think not!

Whilst I congratulate all at APAT for everything else that they have delivered for Season 4 and thank them for all the hard work they do on our behalf, I believe this pro series is a mistake and had it been put forward as a suggestion on this thread, pointing out that it will take 25% - 30% of the seats from all but the DTD event, that it would have received very little support.

I have to sadly say +1.

there are already plenty of well structured £200 plus tourneys around - DTD GUKPT side events etc and at slightly higher level ukipt 500 pounders.

There are no other 2 day tourneys at the 75 pound level for recreational players and with the apat membership as high as it is the demand is massive.

At least move the pro series  to the sunday for events after swansea, which really seems the obvious solution and surely increases the attendence on the second day for the casino

[KarmaDope]

Sunday move prob wouldn"t work as most pros who would play that event would also play Sunday majors online, and would therefore stay at home.

[Paulie_D]

Sunday move prob wouldn"t work as most pros who would play that event would also play Sunday majors online, and would therefore stay at home.

Tighty has gone into the reasons why both comps are being held on the same day elsewhere and, although I am disappionted with the reduction of "amateur" seats, I won"t argue that point now...I think. Big Picture stuff.

Des has made it clear that he felt there was demand from within the existing membership for a higher entry comp. Perhaps they didn"t put down in writing in the forums but I"m not going to call the man a liar.

Arguably, Des and Richard speak to more APAT members on a face to face basis than anyone else and if they felt the demand wasn"t there they wouldn"t have risked the shellacking they are getting now.

Whether it should be called the "Pro" series is arguable, but it rolls of tongue better than "The Higher Priced APAT Tourney"....and it allows "true" pros to be brought further into the fold. Two of my friends welcomed the opportunity to play in the "Pro" comp, and whilst they are excellent players, they are not, by any stretch "proper" pros*.

*Jim, Tel with apologies.

[SirPercival]

Sunday move prob wouldn"t work as most pros who would play that event would also play Sunday majors online, and would therefore stay at home.

Tighty has gone into the reasons why both comps are being held on the same day elsewhere and, although I am disappionted with the reduction of "amateur" seats, I won"t argue that point now...I think. Big Picture stuff.

Des has made it clear that he felt there was demand from within the existing membership for a higher entry comp. Perhaps they didn"t put down in writing in the forums but I"m not going to call the man a liar.

Arguably, Des and Richard speak to more APAT members on a face to face basis than anyone else and if they felt the demand wasn"t there they wouldn"t have risked the shellacking they are getting now.

Whether it should be called the "Pro" series is arguable, but it rolls of tongue better than "The Higher Priced APAT Tourney"....and it allows "true" pros to be brought further into the fold. Two of my friends welcomed the opportunity to play in the "Pro" comp, and whilst they are excellent players, they are not, by any stretch "proper" pros*.

*Jim, Tel with apologies.

Good post ^^^^^^^^