Poker RNG, cheats and bad beats. is online poker a big scam!!

[Mikeyboy9361]

An age old, and rather tiring debate.

Bad beats aren"t "bad" - they are just a win for the under-dog.    There is no difference between live and online - it"s just that we tend to remember the "bad" beats..... and online we play around 5 times the hand volume per hour as we do live.... hence therefore we see and remember more "bad" beats per hour online.

Bloody hell!! I just had that exact discussion with some one at a live tournament last night!! Can"t believe thats another post I agree with you.

[AMRN]

Can"t believe thats another post I agree with you.

Steady on Mike, people will talk!

[kinboshi]

Online poker"s a scam, the illuminati control it all, all vaccines contain toxins to cause infertility and control the world"s population, the WTC attacks were done by the US government, Princess Di is living with Elvis in Grimsby running a greasy spoon, and Tom Cruise is sane.

[Chipaccrual]

Online poker"s a scam, the illuminati control it all, all vaccines contain toxins to cause infertility and control the world"s population, the WTC attacks were done by the US government, Princess Di is living with Elvis in Grimsby running a greasy spoon, and Tom Cruise is sane.

And Kinboshi once won an APAT event, so live poker must be fixed.  

[PHIL_TC]

having followed the WSOP final table, I have to say live poker is far more rigged

I mean KK > AA, 33 > JJ, 22 > QQ. Proof if you needed it

99 v KK at APAT bolton I am not bitter  

KK < KQ at APAT bolton
AA < JJ at the venetian

I"ll stick to online. Its easy

Agree with AMRN they"re not "bad beats".. no difference live vs online.. and I should know it was my KK at Bolton vs KQ

[maverick1]

thankyou for your replies and sorry if it was too much of full on question or insulted anyone i just wanted to find out some other online players views.
just to let you know i contacted fulltilt about this and they replied assuring me there is noway anyone can cheat to see other players hole cards and they also say their own random generator cannot be copied or synchronised with any other software.
hopefully this is the case as i love playing online.

[Chipaccrual]

That"s a relief. I feel more comfortable now that Filt Tilt has assured you that its software isn"t rigged.

Sometimes John you can come across so sarcastic.

Ever since that 5th place in the Portsmouth Snooker Club Rebuy, you seem to talk down to people when it comes to poker.  

[samuel_9]

how do you play a snooker rebuy

[MintTrav]

That"s a relief. I feel more comfortable now that Filt Tilt has assured you that its software isn"t rigged.

Sometimes John you can come across so sarcastic.

Ever since that 5th place in the Portsmouth Snooker Club Rebuy, you seem to talk down to people when it comes to poker.  

If you"ve got it, flaunt it. TBH I can"t understand why The Hendon Mob keeps refusing to include that result on its database.

[Swinebag]

i used to bleat about bad beats

LOL. What has changed???

[duke3016]

how do you play a snooker rebuy

Fastest finger first

[Cyntaf]

So Leigh, tell me. What was your exit hand at Bolton?

[CrizzyConnor]

Online poker isn"t rigged, there may have been a couple of dodgy operations in the past but there"s no way any of the big sites these days are rigged, the sites have too much money to lose if they are caught in a cheating scandal. It"s purely volume and variance issues, and like has already been said - you"re playing more hands /hour and you"re more likely to remember bad beats than the pots you win.

I myself am on a shocking run online at the moment that has seen my bankroll disappear before my eyes, i"ve been keeping record recently and from my last 27 tournament exits i"ve went all in ahead 23 times only to be outdrawn. I know exactly how you feel but it"s just bad luck and spazzy players aligning perfectly that flag up these weird plays.

The constant beats don"t make me trust poker sites any less - even when I get one outered on the river:
http://www.pokerhand.org/?4886217

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